Im sure Nas, Snoop Dogg, and a bunch of other racist were highly offended by this, and probally believe that "whiteys" had no right being at something that honors their "Culture" well all I gots to say is geez get over yourself, you crap everyday like everyone else. Why cant they all be cool like that one dude who was pounding his fist, heck we put up with their music why cant they put up with ours. So Rock On! Alien Ant Farm! P.S. I have nothing against people who are black, I just hate it when they are racist torward people of other color. Cuz believe me, I have many black friends, but they dont go around "doggin" me. Peace --- Ghetto John

Hurray they used my news

since when were nas, snoop dogg, etc racist? If you dont like the music dont listen to it.

Watch Snoop Doggy Tele vizzle or whatever, theres some definate racism goin on, and listen to Nas's I Can Be Anything I want To Be, you'll catch it

Hello?!! it is BET not W.E.T. Why do white people get so offended and resents when a black person speaks up for something? I do think that white people do not have the right to be at anything that honors our music when you have a-holes like Kid Rock and Wierdo Al making a mockery of hip hop culture just to make a buck.

If you look at Weird Al (learn to spell) as someone "making a mockery of hip hop culture just to make a buck", you need to chill out. He does it to make people laugh. He certainly doesn't need the money at this point. I like hip hop, and enjoy listening to it.

OK KKK, That was not appropriate, I did not mean to start up a racist controversy, I just wish that racism on either sides would go away, In no way am I racist, and besides, andre1127,if your mad because "whiteys" make fun of your culture, how about when your " culture " makes fun of us, hello your not slaves anymore, you've got your freedom, you have just as many rights as the next person, so stop complainin' about respect. But I do like rap music, only certain kinds though, because I really dont care about how much bling you got. Regardless, Peace --- Ghetto John p.s I literally mean Peace!

Rock On Jeff!

I am a fan of Alien Ant Farm. Having said that, I thought they were wrong in crashing a ceremony to honor black achievement. These rappers have never dissed the Oscars, have they? Sorry, John.

They didn;t crash anything, *reads headline* ok they did.

No one was offended by AAF being at the BET awards, and if you were too bad, stop being such a punk. Find something important to bitch about.

Ignorance in its true sense... He just doesn't know what rap music is anyway thats why he makes pointless .. misunderstood comments.. I'm a 37 year old W Male that loves Rock music and I say . "Try to understand any culture and its people before you make comments like that."

That would be like a bunch of conservative protestors at a gay awards show, (and I am not gay, not that there's anything wrong with that.) If AAF was just at the BET awards to make a video, fine. But they could have had a Plan B. And Ghetto John, why do you name yourself that when you are even from the ghetto?

I do hate rap music. I also hate modern rock, new age, metal, and techno. They're all a bunch of liberal whiners.

Oh...it seems it's time for me to make some new friends! So AAF crashed a BET party. So what? Does anyone remember when ODB (That's Ol' Dirty Bastard) crashed the Grammys? Or when Fiona Apple completely DISSED the award she got on MTV? Rap music ain't racist. Yes, they use the N word too much, but seriously...do you honestly think DMX and 50 Cent and all the rest are out there in the hood? Ha! I have NEVER seen a housing project on MTV Cribs...that proves the color they prefer is GREEN. And rather than use the normal channels to make the green (which seldom work unless you take off your clothes, get arrested, or both), they stormed the crowd from the roof across the street. More power to 'em! I hope they get PAID! And Ghetto John...what ghetto are YOU from?

I dont actually live in the Ghetto, But I used to, and I make fun of what I used to be in, so sorry.

Wow, Ghetto John, where do you get off? An accusation of racism is not something to be thrown around lightly, especially seeing as you have no evidence at all about what Snoop or Nas thought about Alien Ant Farm. I've listened to Nas' "I Can," and while the history lesson is a bit confused, I see no racism involved anywhere.

I really do love it, either here or in the message board, when I have an oppinion and everyone bashes me. I have never once disrespected any of your opinions, I have never taken offense by your remarks to my parodies,and especially to your parodies. I try my hardest to write clean and half way sane parodies. Im sorry that vulgurness and what not isnt on my agenda. And Im truly sorry that this 18 year olds voice is not heard and respected. I might as well just leave or maybe I'll just stay so I can piss you off some more. Because even though this site is full of adults, you all really need to grow up. Quit being so easily offended and so quick to defend what you feel is vulverable. Cuz Im sorry but the term White boy is just as racist as Nigger. Or the fact that they blame the white race for the shit our ancestors put them through. I had no part in slave trade. And I certainly dont agree with it.. And as far as Nas and his I Can Be song, Im sorry but Egypt held slaves, Egyptians felt like they were the superior race. Pardon my French, I wouldnt want to offend anyone, I am not racist to people of any color, I am simply racist to racism. So all of yall need to just get off of my back. I hate that I stirred up such a argument. And Im sorry if you so happen to find 1000 grammatical errors. Truth is I have a few learning disabilities and Im not to good with english so back off. Peace --- Ghetto John

Once again I have to say to someone that their comment was not appropiate. Robert thats not cool. Peace --- Ghetto John

"Im sorry but the term White boy is just as racist as Nigger." No. It's not. The word "nigger" is so loaded, in a way that no racial slur towards white people could ever be, as offensive as you may find it. "Quit being so easily offended" Fair enough, but keep in mind that the argument was started by YOU being offended by Nas and his lyrics. "Or the fact that they blame the white race for the shit our ancestors put them through." I don't like that either. But I don't see it in Nas' song. If that's your interpretation, fine, but don't go saying that Nas is a racist solely based on the way you read it, or saying that Nas was offended by Alien Ant Farm because of his alleged racist beliefs. Like I said, accusations of racism are not to be thrown around lightly (though it has far too often already). Personally, I read that verse as an illustration of how powerful the African race was before imperialism destroyed the mighty kingdoms. His point isn't that Egypt was a perfect society, but that it was an important part of history that deserves to be mentioned alongside the Greeks and Romans.

well ghetto john when you make ignorant comments people are gonna get at you. also Nas wasnt even at the BET awards

I don't really see what the big deal is about crashing the BET awards anyway. I don't think Weird Al does it for the money either since you have to give a lot of the money to the artists and producers of the original song. That's why he does some original songs. I don't think Ghetto John is a racist or anything like that. I've seen the Doggie Fizzle and there is some racism. Like the wig out, to take the wigger out of your kid,etc. The only problem I have with Ghetto John is the fact he has to say "Peace" after every post. Oh and the 14-some parodies of BBC. Here's a new one: Peace peace peace Peace please. Maybe you can get your ranking to go one higher with that one. Great, now I'm ranting. I'll finish up by saying I like your parodies John-Peace!

How about " Violence --- Ghetto John " ? ; )

Yeah or you could just go with "war". Since alot of people seem to be at war with you

LOL, not a bad idear, the only thing is that Im not at war with them.

Nas doesn't really know what he's talking about on that song. The sphinx's nose fell off due to erosion, not because Alexander was disgusted that they had black faces. And besides, Egyptians weren't 'black' in the sense that African-Americans are, they were dark-skinned but they weren't the same people.

I have made some rather dumb and thoughtless comments regarding this story. I have had so much on my mind, and I have been so hot headed that I havent been thinking things through. With my grandfather having cancer, and my girlfriend breaking up with me and about 7 other things that I am not really going to speak about, I probally sacrificed the respect of a bunch of people. I did not mean to come out as a racist, and I did not mean to portray myself the way that I did. I cannot tell you what inspired me to post my comment, and I am truly sorry. It seems that Im always the reason for these rediculously heated debates.

Ghetto John: Not to beat a dead horse but...seeing that we formulate opinions based on first impressions, I believe you are racist. All of your comments have strong racist undertones, some are blatant. You always put the word culture in quotations when referring to black culture. Is that because you don't see black people as being cultured? It has always been my experience that the easiest way to spot a racist is to look for the person who says, "I'm not a racist, I have plenty of black/mexican/chinese/etc.. friends." Also, you stated , "heck we put up with their music why cant they put up with ours"

-continued to Ghetto John- You don't have to "put up with" black music. You have the freedom to purchase and enjoy any music that you like! Also, out of respect for other people's opinions, you should refrain from using racist words in your posts. The "n" word should not be used by blacks, whites or any other race of people. Yes, rappers and other IGNORANT people use the word on a regular basis, but that does not make it okay. My skin crawls everytime I hear or read the word in any context. We all harbor some racist feelings and ideals not just towards other races but our own race as well. We have a long way to go before there will truly be any harmony amongst the races. Your ideas and words are not helping!

LOL! You act like you know me! LOL! LOL! LOL! Oh my goodness who the hell are you to call me a racist? I have never once had a problem with Black people they have personally never done anything to me, and I do have black friends, we hang out all the time, we laugh and make black jokes all the time. All I was saying is that racism on either side is rediculous, white boy is just as bad as N*****, Whitey is as well. sorry---Ghetto John.

To be fair, people weren't taken from their homelands en mass and enslaved because they were whiteboys; people aren't as commonly dismissed for jobs because they are whiteboys; there's no Southern organisation that drag whitey down roads on a rope attatched to car; i've never seen photos of signs that said 'De Strand, Slegs Negers' or 'No Dogs, No Whiteboys, No Irish', personally.

Ghetto John: I don't have to know you to recognize racist comments. I do know that you had no problem throwing the "N" word in your comment. I do know that you feel you have to "put up with" black music. You said in your original post, "I have nothing against people who are black, I just hate it when they are racist toward people of other color." What about when white people are racist? Or Asian people? Do you feel that black people have no right to be racist? You asked who the hell am I to call you racist? I am a bi-racial woman (black and white) who has been the victim of racism all of my life. I get it from both sides. I have heard your comments before, from the mouths of other racists. So tell me, just how many token black friends do you have? And are they merely protection? Do you feel that other black people won't "go around doggin" you if you have a couple of Negros on your porch? If you are not a racist, why are you so upset by the accusation. If it is not true, shrug it off and keep stepping. Know yourself. I have been called the "N" word, half-breed and various other slurs but I know who I am. You can call me names but you will never break my spirit. I was born free and I work hard every day to maintain that freedom. I don't know you, your ancestors or their sins. For all I know, my father's family could have owned part of my mother's family. That is in a past that I may never know. I am dealing with my present and my future. I know that we (PEOPLE) have a long way to go. We all find excuses for our behavior and it has to stop.

Heres an idea, how about as an act of worldly togetherness everyrace just kisses my white bootay!. That goes for white people, black people and even purple ones or however many other ones there is.

Ahh, Ghetto John, you never cease to amaze me. Earlier, you stated that you are 18 years old. Here's an idea, GROW UP! If you can't stand the heat, keep your "white bootay" and it's comments to yourself.

LOL, Dude im just playin around, I just want this argument to end.

OK, Ive got an idea. How about this, if anybody has something to say to me, they send me an instant message at GhettoJohn2k3 or email me at GhettoJohn2k3@yahoo.com

Lots of fans there loved it and Killer Mike did too

to the person who said "it's BET, not WET" do you HONESTLY think that anyone would get away with "WHITE entertainment television??" calling something "black entertainment television" is just as racist, but it slips by. blacks can be racist against whites just as much as the traditional racism against blacks.

chelsea - you are ignoring the fact that white culture is generally the dominant one. You could call CNN the WNN if you wanted, or CBS WBS.

Chelsea makes a good point that BET is racist. It fosters a seperatist mentality. Hoeveel-also makes a good point, white culture is dominant. I make a good point by saying we all have our problems.

I wouldn't say so, the reason why groups like MOBO and BET exist is because there's a feeling that black culture is underrepresented in the mainstream. It's not racist, it's 'seperatist' for a purpose, if they admitted white-culture acts that purpose would be defeated.

Nobody at the BET awards gave a shit. If you watch the video, They all seemed to love it, So shut up and dont bitch. BET is a somewhat racist channel. If we had a "WET" (white entertainment channel) we would be considered hardcore racists. So fuck BET. We are all equal. This is not the 1960's anymore. Get over it.

@ Suburban Steve- not that I want to really get involved but if you do a bit of research you will find plenty of pics with signs that say "No Irish". The Irish immigrants where massively discriminated against in the 19th century. In fact indentured Irish persons where often used in the most dangerous jobs in the south because they had no monetary value. This is not in any way meant to belittle the struggles that afro-americans have faced either in the past of the present, but just to point out a slight inaccuracy in your comment. @ Andre2117-- Weird Al has always mocked POPULAR music, it's not his fault that hip hop and rap has become as commercial as it has. As to Kid Rock he is as legitamate as any other above ground performer out there. He isn't mocking rap at all, he is combining it with the other types of music he came up with to create a new form. It is a tried and true story, combining predominately white music with predominately black music to form a new genre, e.g., hall and classical music gave us Jazz, blues mixed with country gave us rock and roll. Kid Rock is combining rap and bad eighties metal help forge rapcore, which is yet to stand the test of time (and IMHO hopefully won't.) Oersonally I prefer the bluesier / country stuff he has been doing of late like the duest with Crow. PS I thought that the AAF crash was funny, and I'm sure that a fair amount of those in attendance did as well.

Tim - i think you miss understand. I was saying there were no signs that mentioned 'no whiteboys/whities' etc and i was using the 'No Dogs, No Blacks, No Irish' signs, that were common all over England in the '60s/'70s, as an example. My family is Irish so i do know a little bit about what the Irish have been through - even in my mother's generation they weren't allowed to have 'Catholic' (or Gaelic) names on Birth Certificates, as a mild example...my uncle is Sean but on his birth certificate he is John and my aunt Mairead is Mary on paper.

shut tha fuck up about them being racist them niggas was laugh'n and smileing everybody was i saw it they were probably just thinking thats a damn funny idea nobody was mad except the police and bet.

You know what i think it is ridiculous to even be arguing about this nonsense. I'm 14 and mature then most of the people in here. Yes the BET awards are to honor the achievements of black people, but who said white people couldnt attend or perform people dont get mad at eminem. Ghetto John you're saying get over slavery we will never get over it. If you were black you would understand it is hard to be black in america so dont tell me to get over it when you have no clue what it feels like. So with that said i am a fan of rock and rap so cant we all just get along lol.

You know what i think it is ridiculous to even be arguing about this nonsense. I'm 14 and mature then most of the people in here. Yes the BET awards are to honor the achievements of black people, but who said white people couldnt attend or perform people dont get mad at eminem. Ghetto John you're saying get over slavery we will never get over it. If you were black you would understand it is hard to be black in america so dont tell me to get over it when you have no clue what it feels like. So with that said i am a fan of rock and rap so cant we all just get along lol.

First of all, do you realize that the Grammies and Oscars are not exclusively white award shows? So don't make that idiotic comparison. BET deserves to be made fun of. If there was a WET, it would get sued left and right. With that alone, black people shouldn't even start bitching about who's racist - they have the whole tv channel dedicated to black people. But I agree that no one was probably pissed off. I think everyone understood the humor of it.

What was that all about anyway? I'm black and i fuck with AAF..

according to the nas comment-- since when has educating people on their history and the things that has happened in the past been racist. he was simply telling the truth in his song, "I Can", if you didn't like what he said, then the only solution is to change history to where blacks and other races weren't oppressed

Actually, Truth, i've already pointed out two inaccuracies in Nas' lyric.

i don't know if you dumasses saw the new alien ant farm video but everybody seemed to be enjoying themselves maybe not at first but at the end they were so everybody needs to shut up already. they did it so they can show that everybody can enjoy they're music and they wanted to show that people that like rap can enjoy rock too! Josie

k all i have to say is that i thought it was sweet what they did! it was hilarious. AAF didn't do it to insult anyone just to make a video and so what snoop and nas maybe were pissed but everyone else seemed to think it was pretty f***in funny

ghetto everyones rite don act racist

why does it always have to be about black and white?

I just saw the video today and read all the comments about this parody. What I think about this whole situation is that it's not about AAF making fun or dissing BET. It's about just having fun and shooting a video. Sure, the authorities were furious...but as you browse through the video, you see people actually enjoying AAF. I really think that society is a bit messed up, but what can you do? The only way to end racism is for all the races to come together and not think of any slurs or situations or arguments that will spark that fire once more. It is all about the mentality of people, and if that mentality is erased, racism would cease to exist. And also, I am Asian and I could really care less about what people call me and how they treat me because I'm the one feeling sorry for them for not realizing how stupid they look and sound when they try to diss a person that is equal to them.

Alright, I'll say right now that im a big fan of AAF, but this board has gotten less and less about the bands video and more about racism between blacks and whites. You can interpret this any way you like, but this is my opinion, not researched facts. Blacks were discriminated in the past, they still are being discriminated. Whites had easier in the past, but recieve discrimination now. In California, caucasians are pretty much a minority, and are discriminated as such. It happens everywhere, if you are the oddball out, then the blunt of the insults are on you. It happens to be so, that blacks arent as highly numbered throughout the U.S. as whites, and therefore get discriminated, and send discrimination back our way. Whites started the "racial wars" but its all of our responsibilites to end it. The earlier comments about blacks having harder times of getting jobs has me confused. Id like to think that blacks have an easier time of getting jobs with the minority laws that enduce rules at each workplace where they must emply a certain percentage of a minority. I know i will recieve many comments, but i dont think the word nigger is that bad. Ive heard black people saying "Hey my nigger" and the like to eachother. A white would get harassed or sued for saying such a thing, yet when a white gets called a wigger by a black, they could try and sue but chances of winning that case would be very slim. I apoligize for taking the sides of whites more, i dont meen to do so, its just thats the side i think i understand better. I live in a tiny racial town in Iowa, though i am not a racist. My family is racist, my friends are racist, everybody is. I dont have any black friends, because there is only one black family that lives here. I've talked to black people in chat rooms, and for the most part, i feel i get judged by them way too quickly. Ive had some call me whitey and tell me to shut up just for being white. I have seen whites do the same to blacks.As for AAF, i dont think they had much purpose being at BET, but it didnt harm anything. I do feel blacks dont get as much representation as whites, and therefore i dont mind them having there own channels that support only them. As a final note, why cant we all be like the Alley McBeal show? Blacks and Whites together, with no racism or slander. God Bless Alley McBeal.

What is wrong with everyone here anyway. There is only one culture in America...and that is American. If you feel that you are not one of us, then I suggest you go to where you feel comfortable. I see all Americans as the same, period. I am 41 years old, and am not very experienced in music. But what I saw on that video clip almost brought a tear to my eye. I actually (now that I've heard some of it ;) ) enjoyed AAF's music and found their ingenuity to be excellent. What I gathered from the video was TOGETHERNESS, COMMON INTERESTS, and the need to SMILE WIDELY offer more hope than the silly color arguments that work against all of us. Time to grow up people, love each other or kill each other....what is your choice? Peace Art

YEAH AAF, THAT ROCKS!

i really doubt that when alien ant farm crashed the bet awards they were thinking about racism or anything like that. they were most likely just thinking about their music video and how much contraversy it would make if a bunch of white kids crashed the bet awards. i find the whole idea of bet awards ridiculous. not that i think that black people dont deserve awards for achievments, but its shows and channels that take black people and put them into a seperate categories from everyone else that start racism. no one deserves extra respect for their race. and oscars arent just for white people. what they did was cute and harmless. i doubt it hurt anyones feelings. if people didnt like their music, they didnt have to listen to i. do we tell people who are performing at the side of the road for an extra buck to go away or that their disturbing us? this isnt tht different. so they really made a large statement to get attention, i think the people at the bet awards were more amused by it then anything else. music cant hurt anyone so what was the problem?

http://www.music-slam.com/archives/000056.html turns out it was pure coincidence, nothing racist. i feel bad that their little stunt caused so much commotion and so many accusaitions of racism.

I thought the video was awesome, and you could tell that for the most part people started enjoying it. It was the old-schoolers like Johnny Cochran and James Brown that were pissed. I don't see why you guys think BET is racist. Yea their are devoted to a specific community, but so is Univision and Telemundo. Are they racist too? BET is a forum for many non-black like Jon B., Fat Joe, Remy Shand (spelling?), and even NSYNC/Justin Timberlake. They show love to many different people, it sounds to me like many people here are just looking for an opportunity to stir up some of their own inner frustrations. And too the idiot that said Egyptians aren't Africans... did you forget what continent Egypt is on?

maia - i don't think anyone said Egyptians weren't Africans. But i'm an idiot so i'll assume you were talking about what i said. I was saying they weren't 'black' in the way African-Americans like Nas are, i.e. Negroid. I wasn't saying they weren't African.

Sorry for calling you an idiot. I'm still not exactly sure what you're trying to say. Many Egyptians are black as well as fair-skinned. But anyways no hard feelings.

When talking about the Ancient Egyptians, they weren't the same 'race' as Nas. Nas is 'black' in the same way that people from Sub-Saharan Africa are 'black', as in Negroid. You've heard of the three categories right? Negroid, Caucasian and Mongoloid? You can be dark-skinned without being negroid, for instance Indians.

i think AAF had a great original idea for a music video. it has nothing to do with race lol. i think all of the narrow minded people here turned it into that because they don't know what else to think. But props to AAF that was a hillarious idea.

Rattner - August 04, 2003 4:19:20 PM - What is wrong with everyone here anyway. There is only one culture in America...and that is American. If you feel that you are not one of us, then I suggest you go to where you feel comfortable. I see all Americans as the same, period. I am 41 years old, and am not very experienced in music. But what I saw on that video clip almost brought a tear to my eye. I actually (now that I've heard some of it ;) ) enjoyed AAF's music and found their ingenuity to be excellent. What I gathered from the video was TOGETHERNESS, COMMON INTERESTS, and the need to SMILE WIDELY offer more hope than the silly color arguments that work against all of us. Time to grow up people, love each other or kill each other....what is your choice? Peace Art This guy knows what he is talking about. Everybody re-read this, because it should end the racism controversy over the music video. If you still dont believe it, then go here http://www.dapslyrics.com/2003/t/TheseDays-AlienAntFarm.html and read the lyrics for yourself. I dont sense any racism in this song. Throughout the song Alien Ant Farm says "Here's to love and friendship" and near the end they say "We'll be a real team". Well AAF, thats just obsurd! How dare you suggest friendship between blacks and whites by singing this song at the BET awards! (sarcasm in case you couldnt tell). If you want people want to complain about bands promoting peace between races you have some real problems to work out.

pardon my grammar...

nah dude none of these rappers are racist... snoop dogg uses stereo types in his show he is notbeing racist just liek you would see other shows sayin blacks are into drugs and guns its a stereo tye and im sure you laugh at that but wen it is towards yer own race you get mad about to stereo type he is just trying to turn the table a lil bit, im not sayin a liek all rap, but i also am not sayin i dislike all rap. i think it was gnarley to see wat alien ant farm did and teh as you can see in teh video the rappers were not mad! they thought it was funny! so i dont understand how you ar saying they would be mad at these "whiteys" doing that, in my opinion rappers accept other music and genre more then metal heads or "punks" do.

Personally, i think AAF's video had nothing to do with race. It was a publicity stunt and by the looks of it, it worked to some extent...i hope when you say 'ingenuity' that you mean 'ingenuineness' ;)

I thought the Alien Ant Farm videos was not only a great publicity stunt, but a strong foot towards anti-racism. if you take the words of song, "These days are grey, there's work to do ... it's something positive and negative too," the songs itself talks about racism, and how the world is treating it incorrectly. These days are grey and the united states is not the melting pot it intecded to be, istead it has become a mosaic, with differnt cultures and races, staying to themselves. Bet is a positive thing for black culture, they feel that mainstream culture is mostly white and that they are not acknowledged enough so they have created a channel dedicated to their culture. With this positve vive from the channel, it is also very negative in the fact that blacks in general feel undermined by main stream culture so they have segregated themselves by creating an all black channel. There is lost of work to do in the world today on all sides, by all races. p.s. "WET"... isn't that a porno channel, hehe

If AAF wanted to do anything revolutionary like anything new in the field of tsk...'anti-racism' then they wouldn't be on the label they are on now mate.

Lets have all chill, I am Egyptian-African American and let me tell you I love AAF (I also hate rap but that's something different) I have since they first came out and I always will and because of what they did at the BET awards I love them even more. They're not racist, they're not jerks, they're just good guys having one hell of a time with life. Open your mind people and Ghetto John, don't worry about it. People are gonna think whatever and get offended by the slightest little thing constantly. People think I'm racist too since I don't listen to rap, or r&b or any of "my culture's" music. How can I be racist against my own damn people?! How about we all just relax, grab a Corona and watch some AAF videos? ~Out

I'm amazed you are all still talking about this, but since I'm hear might aswell say something... 'White Boys' love to party, and in today's world of media it's all about anarchy and doing something shocking and provoking. Take jackass for example. AAF wasn't trying to start racist outrage, they were giving BET award winners a free show and closing the gap between two totally different musical realms. Anyone bother listen to what AAF was singing? It was "Feeling Kin with nothing but hardship, Here's to love and friendship" BLack/WHITE/Brown/Yellow/red/green/swirel PRIDE! Peace out yall, I'm done.

Eminem is wit snoop

'Lets have all chill, I am Egyptian-African American' - LOL, you must love the internet, gives you a chance to be yourself ;).

'in today's world of media it's all about anarchy' - OMGLOLROFLMAO etc.

:P I feel a lot of people were being too hard on Ghetto John, like saying he only has black friends for protection, god, that's the kind of attitude the world doesn't need. You see, I'm the white guy who gets offended when any racism is going on, and I try to speak up about it and am always slammed as just trying to be "down", I hate that. What? I can't find it offensive that people of my species are bashing each other because of their skin color? I can't find that disturbing? I mean I don't see my cats beating the crap out of each other because one is gray and the other is white&tabby mixed. I find that people use race as an excuse to do poorly in life, I think that's bullshit, get a job.

It's pretty clear that AAF wasn't trying to be racist. They "crashed" a number of other events for their video, including a gay rights parade. Did anyone bash them as homophobic? The BET attendees were just as enthusiastic as those taking place in the parade. As for the actual channel, it does something to promote racism when something like BET exists. I understand that part of the reason for it's existence is to spread knowledge of African-American culture, but the said channel segregates blacks from everyone else. Some videos on BET are racist towards whites. I can't remember specifically, but in a video I saw recently, the only caucasians in the entire thing were two cops--shown at first eating donuts, then chasing down the black rapper. That said, there are plenty of black stereotypes and misconceptions promoted by white culture as well. But if black people want to end racism, they shouldn't carry it out themselves. You may say that only a small number of blacks are doing this, but the same is true for white people. Very few of us are racist against African-Americans. I grew up in a fairly even neighborhood, moved to a primarily black area, and I now live in a primarily white community. I am not and have never been racist. What I do believe is that black people that have tons of jewelry, wear extremely baggy clothing, and rap about slappin' hoes and such are jackasses. However, I also believe George Bush is a jackass, and he's certainly not black. My final point is that black people don't have trouble in most of American society today. Sure, there may be discrimination in primarily white areas that haven't quite advanced into the 21st century yet, but in lots of primarily black areas, whites are discriminated against just as much. Black people might even have advantages, with things like affirmative action--but that's a different argument. AAF was not in any way racist, so those of you who jumped on this as an opportunity to spread awareness of how white people are out to get blacks, shove it.

God u people r fukin stupid, let it go racism has always existed and always will exist cause there will always be ignorant assholes out there who have there own opinions and views about races.

it was about as funny as all the posts on here you are all children who think u know what you are talking about

This is pretty ridiculous.... I didn't see the awards... but it looked to me like everyone was smilin. Didn't Brian McKnight smile and raise his hand... didn't Lil Jon (or somebody) take they shirts off and jump around like they were front row?? It certainly looked like the seated crowd felt it. It was just a stunt. Everybody chill. It was just an original idea, probably made up by someone like Spike Jonez... to produce an entertaining video. Why's everyone over analysing? Just chill. Ol Dirty crashing the Grammys was WAYY worse... It wasn't offensive music... and I bet you all there was a positive message behind the whole thing. AAF probably giggled like little schoolgirls when they heard the idea for the video - there was no malice. BET... seriously I don't get how it slips by. I understand the forum and the audience is obviously there... but "Black Entertainment Television"?? Yeah... it dodgy. I guess it's no different than Greek channels etc. White people just couldn't get away with it though. "White Entertainment Television" - that'd never fly. The guy who comes up with that is gone get shot! :) Don't front like NBC should be called "WBC"... that's bullshite... Al Roker wouldn't have a bar of it!! :)

'Why's everyone over analysing?' - It's fun. 'Don't front like NBC should be called "WBC"...' There are probably as many black blokes on NBC as there are white people on...erm...whatever that Hispanic channel someone mentioned earlier.

...is called.

Well there are a lot of stereotypes that are on BET and lots of channels I don't think the channel segregates whites from black I think it opens more people up to an overlooked culture. I'm actually a huge rock fan and I'm black I'm also a huge hip hop fan I love rap music. I like everything. AAF they were cool for crashing the BET awards I don't think people were being bias they were probably thinking for a moment "Hmmm a rock group on top of a building singing." It's not somethin' you see everyday when an award show is taking place. I also have to say that it did seem like the people were enjoying the music no one looked up with screwed faces. I also don't think it's fair to call anyone a racists and not know exactly. As for blacks on NBC, Whoopi Goldberg is getting a show. Prepare for the revolution!

I just saw the video for this..unbelieveable..totally smuing and definitely original. I had to check the story because i wasn't sure if the vid was staged or not. anyway..please read below.. Ant Farm Meet Diddy, Nelly Guerilla B.E.T. Awards gig results in star-packed clip Smooth criminals P. Diddy, Nelly, Snoop Dogg, Lil' Kim, Brian McKnight, LaToya Jackson, Mike Tyson, Johnnie Cochran, and Magic Johnson are among the stars who make cameos in Alien Ant Farm's new video for "These Days." The celebs were filmed outside the June 24th B.E.T. Awards at Los Angeles' Kodak Theater as AAF played the first single from their upcoming album TruANT on a roof across the street. "We crashed the red carpet," frontman Dryden Mitchell says. As the amused nominees and attendees looked up at the rockers, director Marc Klasfeld, the man behind the band's "Smooth Criminal" video, caught them on tape. The band then received clearance from all of the celebs to use their image in the video -- no one said no. The initial shipment of TruANT, due August 19th, will include a DVD. "It tells the story of what happened to us in the wreck," says guitarist Terry Corso of the May 2001 tour bus accident that left Mitchell almost paralyzed and the bus driver dead. "There's a lot of photos from the accident and we did a big interview and talked about it," he adds. "It's not all about that -- it's a rough timeline of what we did in that twenty months of being on tour before the wreck. Of course, it centers on that because it's pretty profound." The DVD packaged with the album is just is "just a teaser for the real deal," Corso says. "We're working on a DVD now. It's gonna be some live performances, and probably a lot of our stupid steam-blowing antics. Sometimes we drink, like, a beer and get a little crazy." KAREN BLISS (July 25, 2003) The only ones to upstage the rap giant didn't exactly do it fairly, considering they weren't officially a part of the festivities. Alien Ant Farm interrupted the red carpet flow by playing their new single on a rooftop across from the Kodak Theatre almost three times in row before cops shut them down. The performance was filmed for the band's new fish-out-of-water-themed video. (Click here for photos from the video shoot). AAF left many on the carpet speechless, but not Killer Mike. "This is amazing," he said, pumping his fist to the tune. "Tell these guys I want to tour with them! "First they stole Michael Jackson's single ['Smooth Criminal'], now they're stealing LaToya Jackson's final moment in the spotlight," Mike added, joking about the Jackson sister who curiously made media rounds at the show. lyrics to THESE DAYS These times are great There’s work to do Would you like to work with me I’d love to work you These days are great And so are you I think it’s something positive Hexed in love and friendship Feeling kin with nothing but hardship Hexed in love, floating shame Feeling kin with nothing but hardship Here’s to love and friendship, here’s to love and friendship Blessed in shine and luster Beaming rays to find skin and warm Shine… rays… to my skin and I’m yours Here’s to love and friendship, here’s to love and friendship These times are great There’s work to do Would you like to work with me I’d love to work you These days are great And so are you I think it’s something positive and negative too We’ll be a real team, we’ll be a real team I told you… I figure if all these artists didn't have a problem with the awards being crashed.. why should any of us regular people. we're not the music stars..it wasn't our party. who gives a crap..there are more important things to be concerned about. read the reports. the only ones making a big deal about this..seem to be the people who weren't at the party..who aren't the stars. like seriously.. if the stars don't care.. why do you guys care so much? it makes no sense. they all probably went home to their rich pads..and forgot all about some rock band singing on top of the roof. a lot of them found it amusing. it's not like they disrupted the ceremony..they were just on the roof.. they didn't even touch the red carpet itself. this is all very silly and it's not even about some rock band "crashing" the red carpet anymore lol..there are issues appearing out of nowhere that have nothing to do with AAF playing on top of the roof during the arrival of the stars on the red carpet at the BET awards. if all the members of AAF were black..would it have been so wrong? i mean is everyone here making a big deal because they were white? because they played rock? or what? there are rock bands with black people in them yah know..rap artists (white and black) use rock in some of their material and rock artists (black and white) use rap in some of their material too. but anyway.. read the reports..read the lyrics..put it to rest.

well lemme tell u something black ppl have a rite 2 be a little offende about what alien ant farm did for this reason black ppl created rock and roll just so u know ......and gueses whose the one stealing it and acting like they invented it know its u guys and ure not even given credit for those that put the way i meen thats y we love eminem because he put the credit down for others i did think the AAF thing was funny it was good 2 + i saw a lot of black ppl watching it and movin there hands so not everyone saw it as an insult......

JaneDoe - i didn't mean there were no black people at all on NBC, i was saying it was a predominantly white channel - America being a white-dominated country.

I thought the video was great. I agree that most of the people at the BET awards seemed to enjoy the performance after initial shock. But I think anyone who believes that equality exists, or reverse discrimination exists, is seriously deluded. Educate yourself my friend. I'm not saying anyone can fully understand anyone else's position in life because half of who you are is what you experience. But I think if you don't TRY to understand, you will be ignorant. Honestly, the 14th amendment did not suddenly change anything. Jim Crow laws were activated in place of slavery for over a century, maybe even still today in some places. De facto discrimination exists EVERYWHERE. The Civil Rights Movement in the 60s changed a lot, but you don't really think it just erased inequality? Please do not settle for what we have now. We should always be striving for more and more progress-not to discredit prior progress, just to understand that no society is ever "finished". Of all groups, African-Americans have suffered the most in the short history of this nation. (Although other groups, i.e. Hispanic/Latinos are swiftly catching up in the experiencing of discrimination). To grant them a CABLE television show to celebrate their own history/culture in resistance to the dominant white culture is nothing. I don't know if you know that BET is NOT only a music station either-it compiles news, gospel, etc all on one channel. And if you actually believe that media representation is equal between whites and all other races, that's absurd. It's not only numbers that matter, its the substance of representation. Anyway, I didn't mean to lecture. These are just a lot of things that came to mind as I was reading. I hope not to offend as well, because I don't think that is the right way to approach such things. Thanks for reading, if you got through all this. Jessica feel free to email me if you have issues with what I've said: njessb@hotmail.com

This is my concern. What exactly were they singing about? Were they mking racial slurs toward the crowd? Were they calling them names? Were they making fun of the black culture? I saw the video for the first time last night and I really wanted to jam, but couldn't understand what they were singing about and I didn't want to jam to a band talking about me. Could someone tell me though, like the words to the song or the general idea of the song. I am interested. I can't believe I am just hearing about this. I watched the awards and news thereafter and no one mentioned the alien ant farm "performance".

hoeveel, you're thinking of Elvis. Elvis should given credit to the people he learned from. Black people did invent Rock and Roll, but why don't they play it now? Why is it dominated by mostly whites when we know how capable black people are of creating really great music? I haven't seen a black guy rip shit up on a guitar since Jimmy. The only black guy I can't think of in a rock group is the lead singer in sevendust. so who would alien ant farm give props too? their influences are Sabbath, Zeppelin, primus and KISS. do you really expect every rock group to praise black people every time they're asked how they got to where they are?

'hoeveel, you're thinking of Elvis.' - You what now?

er not you Hoeveel, I meant that for 'some1,' the spacer between posts should include the poster's name, not have it on the outside.

Erm...OK.

bathewithtoaster- i think black people need a channel like BET coz they need a chance to get herd in the world. the channel will show stuff others dont . the chance of it seing a vid shown somewhere else like 20 times a day is very slim. so in order to get herd thats wot they were driven to do. i think u shud all try and learn from chris. he is surrounded by racsim but somehow overcomes that and sees beyond colour. im soz that ppl judge u hun but i guess u know how it feels. hey wen i saw the aaf vid i didnt relise wot they were doing. im from london and i only relised wot BET was after ( tho ive herd of it many time b4). i saw all the ppl rockin to the song and i was quite glad to see Black ppl enjoying rock. im black and i like rock as well as loadsa over music too. i now and again get racist comments from the rock msg bords. that makes me think twice bout likin the music. neways i like the aaf song. wen i relised wot they did i was like dude thats disrespectin but then i saw no one there seemed too concerned. do right now im not. i jus think aaf succeeded in creating contraversy and did sthg no one had thougt of b4. i think they wud have crashed ne awards. it jus made more sense to do it at some where where the music lovers wernt rockers. probably to see their reaction to the song. ok. thats down.

I am sorry but black people seperate themselves from society more than white people seperate them. In the UK ive had black people come up to me asking me if I "think im black" because im wearing baggy pants, im sure its happened in other places too, my point is, you make the bed - you lie in it. Also before anyone decides to go on about how "white people enslaved them" etc etc... Reality update here - BLACK PEOPLE ARENT SLAVES ANYMORE plus no living black person is or was a slave in their entire life, they have all grown up free people. I absolutely hate how everyones touchy talking about black people, using the correct terminology etc... as somone said earlier "white boy" and "whiteys" are equaly offensive, what if somit was the other way round? It wouldnt happen because black people who have all been told how hard they have it by the TV would get pissed off. Rant over

I saw the video and laughed my a$$ off! I thought it was great, and Nelly and others were cheering AAF on. What I would like to see is Nelly or Snoop Dogg do the same thing at the Country Music awards. Now that would be cool. I really cannot see Alan Jackson or Toby Keith giving those guys the thumbs up. However, there is one thing that hip hop and country music have in common: they both dislike outsiders on their turfs and are very intolerant of their music being mixed with any other kind.

Hey Guys, Daamn. This thing id charged isnt it. Whoh... one pipsqueek decides to do free promotion, thats it. Hey I will be tru, everyone is racist. As soon as you acknowledge another race or culture as slightly different or unique a form of racism evolves. Hey not all racism is bad. As long as you act on it or give importance to it. Everyone looks at every other race with a difference. Hey I have qalked up in Beijing, China at a club called Vics and had black people stare at me, they werent even americans. Its jsut getting used to it. White people are also racist. So are asians. Everyone is, but they arent acting on it or anything, moreover everyobody is changing towards the good. To be true the most educated are the most racist, because they use these racial and cultural differences to their advantages. Like politicians and sales managers use peoples hidden feelings to their advantage. As for Ghetto John he is jsut having a kick out of this, he might disagree but he is simply having a kick outof this. Trust me no really gives a damn, only few do. All i have to say to them is LOOSERS, there are other more important things. NO PEACE

Captain Happy, that's one thing I hate, I mean, a lot of people are still using the slavery thing, "Well it wasn't us Black people who enslaved you!", in an arguement about racism, what? I never enslaved anyone, and I would never think about doing such a thing to any one of any race, why are you using slavery against my argument? Oh well, Alien Ant Farm is phat, Racism isn't.

I think it has to be cleared up that no one is blaming you, or you, whoever, for whatever was done in the past. The idea isn't about blame, it's about solution. I'm finding it hard to believe that some of you say you support the video because you are obviously not supporting its message. In other words, I can't imagine the boys of Alien Ant Farm would enjoy the comments you are making...nor anyone who was a tiny bit educated. No doubt there is much discrimination that is not based on race, i.e. classism and sexism. But you can't just discount things and say they don't exist because you haven't experienced them-you have to listen to people who have.

The best thing about America is that the citizens are supposed to give up their past cultures and adopt the American culture. Of course this doesn't mean "forget" where you came from. We cannot have 1000 different cultures clashing on the smallest of arguments. We must get it together before it's too late. If you are looking for someone to blame for all the "hate" out there, look towards those jack-booted thugs who broke up the festivities. I can hardly imagine an official "complaint" coming from the good folks on the ground. So why arrest AAF? It's simple...because they were bringing folks together and that simply won't work in our modern day police state. Resist ALL attempts to divide our country, whether it be from David Duke or Johnny Cochran...these people thrive on building walls between us. Time to tear those walls down already, and get busy fixing things. CYA

I want to comment on something a Aunt E. on July 4. He obviously dosn't no wat the hell hes talking about, the nose on the sphinx fell off when Napolean conquered egypt . Back then when he conquered a country he would nock the nose of a statue. Maybe people should try to know wat thier talking about before saying to a bunch of other people.

AAf didn't so what they did to be rasist or not rasist, they did it to have a good time and because it was origanal. I thought it was pretty funny and that was the point. So if people like snoop have problems with it it's because thier rasist. I've only heard a few things in this forum that are close to being considered not immature and not rasist. Also the person that said that AAF's video stunt was a accident is wrong because you don't lock youself on a roof if your not going to get in trouble.

AAf didn't so what they did to be rasist or not rasist, they did it to have a good time and because it was origanal. I thought it was pretty funny and that was the point. So if people like snoop have problems with it it's because thier rasist. I've only heard a few things in this forum that are close to being considered not immature and not rasist. Also the person that said that AAF's video stunt was a accident is wrong because you don't lock youself on a roof if your not going to get in trouble.

Hey broodwar08, the nose was not a victim of Napolean, it was the Turks who did it.. maybe you should do a quick search of the web before spouting off..

No that's not right. CB

im not sure if anyone has made this point yet or not, cuz i kinda got tired of reading all the nonsense about 20 posts down. some of you had excellent posts, most should think before they speak. sure ignorance is bliss, but only for the ignorant. aaf's video was great. i thought thier idea was a master marketing and publicity stunt. look how many people know about them now and are still talking about the incident some two months after it happened. i would think any other musician would have done the same thing given the oppurtunity. i believe thier stunt was also an incomvienence for the network and some of the other artists felt it was an intrusion on an event that does honor blacks and thier achievments in music. thats why they were pissed, not because aaf is white or play rock. lenny kravitz isnt a rapper, so that rules out the channel not liking rock, and eminem is white, so that rules out not liking whites. i dont think people should take this stunt as a thing of racism. it was a matter of music and the oppurtunity to make a pretty cool video, which from what i've been reading, everyone pretty much likes. it's time to put the racial comments and ideas to rest. just take the video as it is, a video nothing more nothing less. it'd be nice to touch on all the other nonsense people are saying, but im getting tired of listening to myself. and also, just a side note. if someone could research the whole sphinx nose thing for me and find me the real reason its now gone i'd appreciate it.

Read my post up 6, thats the reason.

Also the only post thats worth your time to read is the one made about the grey cat and the taby&white mix.

Im just gonna post and say again - it pisses me off how touchy people are about having an opinion on another group of ethnicity.. i mean for example I just used the term "group of ethnicity" because I felt maybe I may be branded a racist if I said Blacks. Its a total joke - in the UK you cant even say Handicapped anymore.. apparently thats offensive. Other UN-PC terms include "Retard", "Deaf" and "Paki" - Now everyone is expected to say "Differently abled bodied people", "Hearing Impaired" and "Pakistani"... complete bollox. If I got stranded on a desert Island for 10 years id come back a Nazi i swear because the terms I used to refer to people would be somehow offensive.

People are to sensitive about every damn thing nowdays when it comes to minorities. A show like Sanford and Son would have to be tonned down nowdays because Latinos and others wouldnt lik it. A show like All in the family nowdays couldnt be done because of all the racial jokes also. Nowdays you make a joke relating to any minority and everyone is in an uproar. Im white and I dont give a damn if a friend that was African American called me cracker goofing around or something. People nowdays are just to damn politically corrct about every little thing. Even whn its a non racial issue. You cant say Janitor now thier sanitation control or some **** you cant say someon is a secratary their a personal assitent. O and one last thing to th people saying that popl reacted negative at the awards. I was suprised they didnt. At first many people seemed upset but thn I think they got that it wasnt meant as a slam to their culture just a joke. Many people were banging their heads, pounding fists and had smiles on their faces. Both sides need to stop worrying so much about what the others think of them and do their own thing.

Why do people always make things seem like they can either be "black" or "white"? We are all of the same race, human! People are going to have different tastes in music no matter what, so people shouldn't bag on oter types of music, because it is all music right? Why can't we create a little more grey?

they did not make fun of them look they video and they say these days are great just like you and its so mean the 2 big fat guys that lought at them

Hi I'm a black girl living in Europe and I just watch the AAF video. I don't see anything offending. Some people were pissed but I also saw people smiling. I don't understand how some people who wrote on this website can see an insult to African-American culture. How would you have reacted if it were a "black" band doing the same thing? Racism is stupid but every culture is, prejudice exists in every single culture. Someone talked about NAs lyrics and it's true that the verse about the sphinx is incorrect but that does not make him a racist. You know, black people were slaves at one time and we should never forget that and all the problems they had to go through but I think it's time to move on. Some of you are black and some of you are white but you have one thing in common: you're American. I'm really sad when i see that decades later, blacks and whites are still arguing about such things because that's not like this that America can be strong and united. All cultures represented on the american soil is rich and people should put all these differences in common rather than live separetely. Last thing I wanted to say, why make such a fuss about the fact that there's a channel dedicated to African-American culture. There are plenty of other channels like the Greek one that do not talk about something else than Greece and no one is offended by that. P.S: If I've made spelling or grammar mistakes, please excuse me but you see French is my mother language

I am a black man form BK, flatbush. I grew up listening to nothing but hip hop, but after seing the aaf video and listening to the song, it sparked an intrest and apprieciation for alternative music. The issues they write about are very diverse. It doesn't seem like they write songs with lyrics that foolish and only written to make money. It seems deeper than that. Creativity!

As Diane says above, slavery did happen and noone will ever forget that, but we have evolved as people and become somewhat better than that. Despite those who are still too narrow minded to get passed rascism and and over-powering superior race. To those people, why can't you just grow up and develope a new way of thinking! But to those Affrican Americans, sorry for the past! But we are all just trying to co-exist with one another, it wasn't meant as an attack lets try to be more understanding.

*~THIS IS THE CORRECTED COMMENTS OF AKADEMIKS~* I think what A.A.F. did at the B.E.T. awards show was f*ckin' cool and I don't think racism has a G*d D@mn thing to do with their performance or the B.E.T awards at that. If you hate somebody cause of their color you ain't nothing but a coward. Why can't we all just get along? Oh, wait, we live in america, that will never happen. This is not the land that GOD created for us so we should all take the time to sit back and straighten our selves out before we cast a stone upon others. If you want another opinion what M.T.V did to Johnny Cash was really messed up I know he is no Justin Timberlake or Snoop Dogg but he has made great music and has paved the way for alot of todays artists wether it be rap, country, or rock and roll and that is only to name a few. But then again it goes to show that M.T.V doesn't know good music when they hear it and if they did they would just play it out like all of the rest of the music they play on their station. I listen to all kinds of music from Micheal Jackson to Alien Ant Farm to Limp Bizkit to 50 Cent and thats only a few of the muscians I listen to. And by the way Nas's Video is only speaking the truth so if you can't handle the TRUTH change the station. If you would like to comment on anything send them to akademiks1283@yahoo.com

why didn't anyone mention the fact that BET is owned by a white man? also, the nose on the sphinx has fallen off many times, because everytime they replace it, it's replaced with a rock or mineral that is not as structurally sound as the rest of the sphinx and therefore making it easier to break or crack.

all i gotta say is to the people who were saying the BET awards were honoring HIP HOP...bullshit BET is almost ALWAYS playing rap and r&b, poor excuses for a culture that is truly amazing. i'm sorry to say this but i'm sick of black people thinking that they own hip hop, that if any black rapper makes music he is automatically a HIP HOP artist, it doesn't work that way. half the people they play on BET are horrible, as well as the people who attend their awards...and i'm not white, but i am sick of blacks still acting like whites are SO ignorant and SO racist, if anything there are too many people trying to be black, not shunning it. discrimination against gay people is much more recent and i NEVER hear gays complaining and trashing straight people the way blacks do whites. the same with jews. so GET OVER IT.

I have sat here and read about half of the posts here. Let me begin by saying that EVERYONE is a racist. No one can say that they are not. There is always at least one person or one group of people that people are racist againist. While I don't see anything wrong with that Alien Ant Farm did, someone has to always get pissed off because a white rock band "crashed" a black entertainment awards show. It isn't like they set up on the stage inside the awards show and played. With this being said, i have heard plenty of rap music and even heavy metal music that has racist remarks, and no, I am not speaking of rap music that uses the word "nigger." Always go back and think of what George Carlin says. You take the word Nigger. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the word Nigger in and of itself. It is the racist asshole that is using it you need to be concerned with. We don't care when Eddie Murphy or Richard Pryor use it. Why? Because we know they are not racist. There Niggers. I know I am going to be called a Blue Eyed Devil, White Devil, Honkey, Cracker, or other racist terms, but it is just words. Words can't hurt no one. I think the majority of the posts on this page are bullshit.

I like Alien Ant Farm, and I like them even more after seeing the video. In the song i heard them say things like "we need your help" and "would you like to work with me, because I'd love to work with you" where anyone can get racism from is beyond me, and BET is in no way honoring black culture, its honoring Music, thats it. Yeah everyone that raps is Black but I did see Bubba Sparxxx there. When did he become black? There are 2 kind of people in the world of Music. The ones that listen to the beat or watch the video, and the ones that listen to the words and the content. Its obvious which type most of you are...that was fun.

i have to agree with the sandman when he says that everyone is a racist. i don't think of myself as a racist, though, cuz i hate everyone. it doesn't matter what color you are, or aren't, you're still human, which makes you stupid, which means i hate you. i hate everyone equally, especially, if you annoy me, or piss me off, or breath. that last one was a joke, but no one will get it cuz too many people lack a sense of humor. oh well, i guess that's another reason to hate humans. at least your pets laugh at you when you make jokes. and yeah, if you read any article interviewing the lead dude, it was about crashing the biggest event. they were gonna crash a spin class or something like that first, but then checked the schedule, and saw the BET awards, and thought what bigger event could there be than this. and they commented on the lack of security because they were there lugging stuff around all day long, and no one asked the who they were, and why were going to the roof. and they did get arrested, but were only issued citations, instead of being charged with something. and i'm black and white mainly, with a bunch of other stuff.

Hey, I just say "These Days" this morning, and so I went for info on it, since I never saw anything about it in the papers. I'm glad AAF didn't get arrested, coz I love their music and that video in particular. It's been pretty much established that AAF wasn't being racist, and I agree. My comment is on the BET is racist thing and on Snoop Dog. I can't say for sure, but I don't think Snoop Dog is racist, because at the MTV awards he admitted that he like Johnny Cash' music and hoped he'd win. Also he was playing along with Adam Sandler (I love that guy) say fizzle and shizzle and all those 'izzles. About the BET awards...maybe the hosts of the shows and the people who watch it are racist, I dunno- I know I'm not. I thought you all should know this little, or not so little fact. BET is no longer owned by a black manis sponsered by a white company. The founder of BET sold the station to the company Viacom. He also has a contract with Viacom that will allow him to stay as chairman and CEO for five years. This all happened in 2001. Anyways, all the strings are pulled around by this Viacom company which owns other stations such as MTV, VH-1, UPN, and CBS. Lol. I dunno about you, but I found this to be interesting. In fact I'm still laughing at the irony of it. Oh, and if you want proof, here's a link: http://www.kccall.com/News/2002/1213/Entertainment/ That's all I have to say. See ya and love for anime and j-rock world-round!!!

ALIEN ANT FARM ARE RACIST AND THEY SHOULD DIE FOR WHAT THAY DID

ALL MEMBERS OF ALIEN ANT FARM ARE RACIST AND I AGREE WITH YOU THE ONE THEY SHOULD DIE

Alien Ant Farm, Rock on!

ok...im not a racist...i read the first couple of threads and one stood out (andre1127 =Hello?!! it is BET not W.E.T.) thats right...cause white people couldn't ever have WET cause black people would find it offensive...which is racism...black people could have black radio stations and magazines...but if there was ever a white radio station or a white magazine (that actually said it was a white radio station or magazine) it would be considered racism....why??...i dunno

ok...im not a racist...i read the first couple of threads and one stood out (andre1127 =Hello?!! it is BET not W.E.T.) thats right...cause white people couldn't ever have WET cause black people would find it offensive...which is racism...black people could have black radio stations and magazines...but if there was ever a white radio station or a white magazine (that actually said it was a white radio station or magazine) it would be considered racism..if a black person makes a music video without a white person in it....its perfectly fine...but if a white person makes a music video without a black person in it its considered racism...and did neone ever see the movie Undercover Brother...that had to be the most racist movie (against whites) taht i've ever seen....but it was ok for some strange reason....why??...i dunno.............and saying that theres no racism involved in NAS' I Can....umm i think u need to listen again..."Be, be, 'fore we came to this country We were kings and queens, never porch monkeys" we??? i dont remember nas ever being a slave...that has to be the most racist thing of all...that black people are still bringing up slavery after like 300 years...i mean its not like anyone now was ever a slave...and just because our ancestors were slaves and slave leaders doesnt mean that we still condone it...i mean there were white slaves...but nobody ever brings that up "Ghetto children, do your thing" i no thats not a multi-cultural statement...um tahts all i can think of...so...yea...oh...and i'm not racist

I hate it when people have double standards! Black people can have BET but if a WET came up, forget it, lawsuits galore! I think AAF made a statement by saying cut the segregation crap, there should be one awards show for everyone....none of these segregated awards. ROCK ON AAF!!!

All of the other comments aside- I really like AAF and thought thier "crashing" of the awards was pretty innovative and entertaining- the song rocked. Very unique video ideal- they can crash any of my get togethers any time they please!!

Arf! (i'm french, sorry for the language) i like BET, i did my first vidéo overdose on it ! during the last 7 years ! (teenage years for me) i was always watching BET ! so i was inspired to listen particulary black music ! In 7 years, BET don't change and i think it gone bad ! they don't work the eclectic thing ! not open minded ! the purpose is to entertaining by representing black culture, ! nowadays it's universal , medias tv, magazines don't work on the skin values, there are lot of good artists singing R&B; Rap ! BET work with skin values ! during 7 years, i noticed less of 5 artists no blacks. BET get the results of the popular things ! it was just the second ceremony ! AAF , i'm not a fan, but i think they react on this way ! it's not a colour problem. just the fact to not being eclectic , learning to know who are around them ! music is so various, someone can't listening the same kind of music all time, and THAT is entertainning ! BET have recently power to make awards and broadcast like MTV, but the difference is that MTV is eclectic (in some ways). BET is in evolution , and should think how to make broadcasts who represent black music culture AND give an open door to other kind of music ! Peace everybody ! music make us become ONE ! Feel

Ghetto John, I am not a racist niether am I opposed to AAF being at the BET Awards. I think that every person has the right to their opinion and so did the people who felt some type of way about him being there. And for you to say that Nas and Snoop are racist you must then say, Elvis Presley was a racist. He came out in the open and said that he'd rather stop make music than to have a "nigger" dance or play his music. Never has Snoop or Nas said that. In Nas' song "Be what I wanna be" he was not referring to the white man being the "devil" but how black people should be proud of what we are and what we have accomplished. We are in some ways held down by the color of our skin, but that was very far from the message of the song. Have you ever notice that white inventors get more recongition that blacks? You know who George Washington is, but do you know who George Washington Carver is? Probably not! That's because in most schyools they don't teach. Even though it is a vital part of history! George Washington Carver invented peanut butter, soap, and opened the first public library. Garrett Morgan invented the traffic light a device that we use everyday and that saves lives. As well as the fisr gas mask. Madam CJ Walker invented the straightining iron and the perm. Daniel Hale Williams was the first person to EVER perform an open heart surgery. And more important of all go to Washington, D.C. and look up the presidents, there you will find that the fisrt president ever was a black man. Don't believe me look it up! The history books will never tell you that! Because it was a black man. I am not racist, in fact I'm mixed, and my roomate is white. I think that you need to think before you react! Know the facts! Next time you want to make a statement about black people make sure that you try to walk in the other persons shoes.

Ghetto John and Followers, I think that the racist comment that you made was really ignorant. I can't believe that the black/white thing still exists. Maybe your parents should have taught you better. I am glad that I came from a family who taught me right. I am a white male who has many black friends. I was unfortunately I never had a black history class and I feel I have been deprived of my history. Many people do not know how much black people have contributed to our history and everyday lives. I am fortunate to live with a black family, so I am learning what I wasn't taught and I found out that the stereotypes about them are wrong. Except for the part about them being loud.lol. My friend told me to write that part.lol. Anyway, listen up you racist,ignorant pieces of white trash. I am a white male, I am not now nor have I EVER been a racist. Nas wasn't talking solely about racism it was more about black pride and positivity. Before you go calling people racist should think about what you say out your mouth and your views of other races! Holla!

Jay, You are so lucky to have found yourself, I am truly happy that you live with a Black family, and it is very unfortunate that you weren't able to take a Black History class...Jay, have you ever heard of the library? One thing I don't understand about your comments; quote: " I can't believe that the black/white thing still exists" said Jay, is that you continue for a lengthy amount of character space on just that "Thing". Who really gives a shit that you have black friends? I don't. Who really gives a rats ass that you live with a black family? I don't. lol. Alien Ant Farm kicks ass and rap sucks dick, so does B.E.T. I hope some day to start a television station called W.E.T....Oh but wait, that would be so politically incorrent, and completely unconventional. That would certainly be against your morals and ethics and all the bullshit you believe, Jay. So Jay, I say to you, Holla! Look at your skin, Eminem, and think very hard...have you ever heard the term, "White Chocolate"? Jay, people have contributed to history and our everyday lives, not black people, not white people, not yellow people, not red people, not pink people, just "People". Mankind. Your ideas are completely backwards...as like so many others. You completely contradict yourself, and look like a fool in the process. Get your story straight.

I think that this has been way blown out of proportion. They did what they did for shock value not to be racist. On top of that I'd like to say that I agree that BET is a great way to open people up to a different cuture, and it's a great thing. But how many people here would be seriously mad if there was a WET? Sometimes before you get mad on either side you have to look at it from both ways. I also think Nas wasn't trying to exclude anyone. I think a man writes an anthem type song, and because he's a black man, people get all up in arms. And because a AAF a white band, crashes the BET awards it's automatically racist. I think people are so quick these days to point the finger at the white man just as much as the black. Get over it. Were all people.

Ken Kennif, Everone has their own views on things. I am not contradicting myself if I am talking about how I feel. People are people. We are all in one but their are still people in this world that like to seperate people. And about your comment that rap sucks dick. Don't listen to it. Listen to what you like and get over it. People like different things. THANKS FOR VOICING YOUR OPINION!!!

Logan bane and Ken Kennif, Logan, I totally agre with you on some points, and Ken none with you. Anyway, I don't know if you know but their already are two WET stations...their called VH1 and MTV. When MTV first aired they did not play one black artist for 2 years. Then Michael Jackson came along and changed that. At the time BET was created. it was a place where black music can be heard. BET is not a racist channel, it's a channel celebrating black history and black culture. I don't think that they felt like AAF was being racist, but just took it a step over the line. I think it was tight personally. But how long wdid it take for black people to get their time to shine. It's like now being"black" is cool it's a fad. It shouldn't be that way. I say listen to what you want. I listen to everything from R&B to Country. And Ken for you to say Rap sucks dick would be to say that Limp Bizkit, Sum 41, and Kid rock suck dick. Where do you think they got it from? Or Eminem for that matter? You should then make up your mind either you like rap, Eminem ect. or you don't? I do understand that white have contributed to our everyday lives but then you have to admit to yourself that so have black people. we ARE just people, no matter what color skin we have. So, just look at the history of your music and tell me who influenced it?

Couple of facts: Their were white slaves along with black slaves. Blacks were easier to identify if they escaped their master and you could capture them in large numbers in Africa, thus white slaves dissappeared. Racism started based on money. Napolean blew off the nose of the Sphinx. Because he was bored and wanted to disrespect people. Not due to being black. Nas' song was ignorant of facts. Black media banks on black seclusion, as White media banks on slutty preteens. AAF disrupted the BET awards, because it was funny. Color wasn't involved. Hopefully they'll do it to the Grammy's also. They deserve it. Awards shows are media celebrations of being media. It's more ways for them to make money off of people who blindly follow them. Check your facts!

IF A GROUP OF WHITE BOYS MAKES A SONG SAYING "I'D LOVE TO WORK YOU" AND "after seeing all you gave, and it somehow don't seem EVEN CLOSE to what i'd do" and "TO BREAK IN TWO SEEMS NATURAL" and "WE'RE GROWING COLD< IT"S GETTING OLD< WE SHOULD HAVE KNOW IT'S OVER" -- It's obviously a divisive, BIGOTRY-LACED, song and it was a smack in the face to do the video on BET!!!!

at the BET awards....

So true!!!!

It kills me when a white guy can "explain" WHY slavery occurred and how there were white slaves too, but denies that American slavery's effects are still evident today, or that he/she has any connection to it. White slavery shouldn't even be a relevant issue to white americans because as white Americans they NEVER suffered any government-sanctioned socioeconomic and psychological setbacks (as a race) because of white slavery in this country. Its easy to say "get over it" - as a matter of fact it would be a great healing power if Blacks could just SAY that. But how can it be said when the effects of it are still marginalizing Blacks? Do not allow white guilt to prevent you from standing with Blacks under the banner of understanding.

It kills me when a guy can explain that slavery's effects are evident today, but does not back it up with evidence. Today, the typical "White Male" age 18 - 25 has the least rights in society and the least government, public, and private funding. When applying for a job, he is not likely the candidate, not because of skills sets, but because of government and or corporate stipulations favoring people of "ethnicity". Same goes when applying for a college scholarship. The effects of slavery are evident today because they are allowed to be evident, because they are used to fall back on. Dipolomew, LISTEN! When you say that "White Americans NEVER suffered any government-sanctioned socioeconomic and psychological setbacks (as a race)" You are lying. Just as "black slaves were brought to America, so were "White" slaves. These "White" indentured servants were the bottom of the social pool. Most from Ireland, Scotland, never gained freedom and were indentured all their life. Do you ever hear their families complaining today? Do they get special treatment from the government and big corporations? NO! "White Guilt" ? Dipolomew, are you an idiot? You must have your head up your ass? I have a banner called Dumb Ass, and you can be the first one to stand under it, followed by most of the other idiots who wrote a comment. Who here thinks Dip sounds like a politician? BET sucks! There is nothing cultural about Gangsters and Hoochies! Greenley, I should kick you in the crotch!

Getto John, Ur an idiot!!. Get over YOURSELF and deal with the fact that AAF wasn't supposed to be there PERIOD. White, black or blue. They were pretty much children doing antics that deserve a negative response like bad children being scolded. And you don't have to DEAL with "their" music you ignorant bastard!!! Just don't listen you unwaivering tub of guts. Just like you don't have to continue to read this you useless bloodclot! Much love

"Unwaivering Tub of Guts"? "Jussi" , you must mean Unwavering. unwavering adj 1: marked by firm determination or resolution; not shakable; "firm convictions"; "a firm mouth"; "steadfast resolve"; "a man of unbendable perseverence"; "unwavering loyalty" [syn: firm, steadfast, steady, unbendable, unfaltering, unshakable] 2: not showing abrupt variations; "spoke in a level voice"; "she gave him a level look"- Louis Auchincloss [syn: level] Hmm...makes no sense. Also, I have never heard of "Usefull" Bloodclot...Anyone?

Shut up ken, your a child bad mouthing god. I saw th video it was great. ken go listen to your stupid rap music!

Oni, Go back to school.

Oni I agree with you on everything. People like Ghetto John and Ken Kennif have nothing better to do but be all ignorant. I would just forget about them.

Jay, Nothing about what I have said is ignorant, calling someone ignorant because they don't agree with you is ignorance. Just because I see through all of the BS that the world throws at me doesn't make me a racist or a facist. I don't support BET (Gangsters and Hoochies screw dancing, smoking pot, killing each other, having children out of wedlock, etc.) I don't support the RAP music industry because MOST of it is trash, and you are either for it or against it, there is no gray area. And now I'm considered a "Hater" and a racist. Such is life.

Ken and Followers, Let me break something down for you. You say that the average white male 18-25 has less rights in this country because of Affirmative Action. Well did you ever start to think that if there was'nt racist peole in America there would be no need for Affirmative Action? And as far as them not having as many rights that's bullshit. You have everything, schools will except you over ethnics, jobs, and banks. You say that Nas was being ignorant, how? He said that we were Kings and Queens is that not right? He said that we invented the first schools call Kush, was he wrong? White slaves were poor people who did not believe that "niggers" should be slaves so they themselves were forced into slavery. The first slaves were Indians. The "Americans went over to Africa and promised them that our people would be taken care of in the new land, and offered them money for people. The Africans were not aware that they were going to be sold, beat, and degraded. Tell me how long did white slavery last? You say that all BET is, is smoking, drugs, hoochies, gangsta's, killing and having children out of wedlock, but let me ask you this have you ever seen The Godfather, GoodFellas, Reservior Dogs or Scarface. Were they not doing drugs, sniffing cocaine, have premarital sex, selling drugs for money, and killing one another. While I'll admit two wrongs don't make a right, you can't down talk rap music until you chastise you own for your wrong doings. Are your parents married? Grandparents? Siblings? Aunts and Uncles? I'm sure they all aren't. You want a perfect world and sorry to say it will never happen. are you against Fred Durst, and Kid Rock? How about Eminem? Vanilla Ice? Because if you don't like rap, that would make them all a bunch of wiggers huh? You don't consider yourself a racist however you dilike BET and rap music. Do you like R&B? Or is that too "Black" for you too? The bottom line is I have no problem with them being there, however the same way you don't like Rap or BET you have to respect the fact that everyone was not amused. You have opinions and so do they! And Ken wouldn't it be pretty un-American and impossible for you to kick me in the crotch. Are you mad because I said what I said and can back it up? You are the reason the word "nigger" was made. You truely are an ignorant person. In both aspects of the word. You need to sit down and read a black history book. And FYI the Scottish, Dutch, Italian, and Jewish are NOT white! How dare you try to make your ancestors seem like they have suffered as much as we have. Has any of you relatives past or present suffered like the people in my family have? The Jewish and African people were never to be "Americans". We have suffered. Not getting a job or a scholarship is not suffering! You are probably a spoiled whit boy who has never met a black person a day in his life, and probably are afraid to. You are racist and ignorant, and you are one of the reasons racism still exist! Instead of writing hateful things on the internet, how about you read a book!

Ken, I guess you heard it from Go_Greenley! I agree with her. All that stuff you say about BET is garbage. In most cases ignorance is bliss, but in your case ignorance will surely be the death of you. In no way am I threatening you. You are going to show hatred to the wrong person. You said you want to kick Go_Greenley in the crotch, is that because she is right or because she is black? Answer this question for me, when it comes to murders which race has committed the most. The first murder ever was a white man named Kane who killed his brother Abel. And what about Charlie Manson, Ted Bundy and the Columbine kids. They were all white. Was that Gangster? No because they were white huh? And as far as having children out of wed-lock, Rosie O'Donnell has a child and shes not married. Is your sister a virgin? Are you a virgin? They say that the Black Panther stood for the wrong thing so does the KKK stand for the right thing. There should be Affirmative Action for taxi cabs. Do you have a problem getting a cab to stop. I recently went out job searching and I wasn't hired because of the color of mty skin. It wasn't because I wasn't qualified it was because I was WHITE so I can understand Black people feel when it comes to there everyday life. The italians,jewish, asians, don't like to hire outside there race and I noticed something. Neither do whites!

Since Nas' song was brought up I felt like I should display the lyrics. Nas I Can [Kids-x2]I know I can (I know I can)Be what I wanna be (be what I wanna be)If I work hard at it (If I work hard it)I'll be where I wanna be (I'll be where I wanna be)[Nas]Be, B-Boys and girls, listen upYou can be anything in the world, in God we trustAn architect, doctor, maybe an actressBut nothing comes easy it takes much practiceLike, I met a woman who's becoming a starShe was very beautiful, leaving people in aweSinging songs, Lina Horn, but the younger versionHung with the wrong personGotta astrung when I heard whenCocaine, sniffing up drugs, all in her noseCoulda died, so young, now looks ugly and oldNo fun cause now when she reaches for hugs people hold they breathCause she smells of corrosion and deathWatch the company you keep and the crowd you bringCause they came to do drugs and you came to singSo if you gonna be the best, I'ma tell you howPut your hand in the air and take the vow[Chorus - 2x (Nas and Kids)]I know I can (I know I can)Be what I wanna be (be what I wanna be)If I work hard at it (If I work hard it)I'll be where I wanna be (I'll be where I wanna be)[Nas]Be, B-Boys and girls, listen againThis is for grown looking girls who's only tenThe ones who watch videos and do what they seeAs cute as can be, up in the club with fake IDCareful, 'fore you meet a man with HIVYou can host the TV like Oprah WinfreyWhatever you decide, be careful, some men beRapists, so act your age, don't pretend to beOlder than you are, give yourself time to growYou thinking he can give you wealth, but soYoung boys, you can use a lot of help, you knowYou thinkin life's all about smokin weed and iceYou don't wanna be my age and can't read and writeBegging different women for a place to sleep at nightSmart boys turn to men and do whatever they wishIf you believe you can achieve, then say it like this[Chorus]Be, be, 'fore we came to this countryWe were kings and queens, never porch monkeysIt was empires in Africa called KushTimbuktu, where every race came to get booksTo learn from black teachers who taught Greeks and RomansAsian Arabs and gave them gold whenGold was converted to money it all changedMoney then became empowerment for EuropeansThe Persian military invadedThey heard about the gold, the teachings and everything sacredAfrica was almost robbed nakedSlavery was money, so they began making slave shipsEgypt was the place that Alexander the Great wentHe was a'shocked at the mountains with black facesShot up they nose to impose what basicallyStill goes on today, you see?If the truth is told, the youth can growThey learn to survive until they gain controlNobody says you have to be gangstas, hoesRead more learn more, change the globeGhetto children, do your thingHold your head up, little man, you're a kingYoung Princess when you get your wedding ringYour man is saying "She's my queen"[Chorus x2]Save the music y'all, save the music y'allSave the music y'all, save the music y'allSave the music WHAT WAS SO RACIST?

To go_greenley and others. Dont group me with all these rap is crap idiots for saying this first off. I enjoy all forms of music or any other form of entertainment im not like the ignorant masses who live life by a label without even realizing it. Anyways now my point. Some of the things people like ken are saying are true. Affirmative Action DOES hold back whites nowdays especialy males, it is often a bad thing and its just us weighing the scales a bit to far once again. One group does an injustice to another so we try and make up for those mistakes.....which leads to more mistakes and an injustice to a new group. My cousin had straight A's and didnt miss a single day of school from 6th grade all the way through High School. He was accepted to the University of Michigan just to be told right before school started he couldnt attend after all that they had to accept another African American student instead. So my cousin had to switch schools last minute because someone with lesser grades(they told him this was the case)was a certain skin color. I think that AA was a good thing for many many years and was needed. However now its simply unfair in most cases. I think AA is still a good thing to have around but not nearly to the same extent and it needs to be modified and in about 10 years maybe 20 it needs to be gotten rid of all toghter. This goes beyond schooling and jobs though. As others have pointed out if there was a WET people would scream racism yet BET is ok. There are colleges meant to be for blacks but you couldnt do that for whites, if a group of kids formed a club that was only for whites they would be racist but one only for blacks acceptable. You can go through and find sooo many damn examples like this. Want some more? Black comedians make white jokes constantly but if a white guy did that.....racist. At many schools if a white kid was reffered to as white bread, cracker or even honkey no one would care but use the N word and your in some deep ****. People who ignore this and think blacks are just this poor abused group nowdays are just as ignorant as those who think racism towards blacks doesnt exist at all or says stuf like rap is crap. Finally about Slavery. People hang on to it to damn much. Slavery for many years has just been a fact of life. We enslaved Africans yes and it was terrible. Yes after being freed they were treated horribly and yes to this day it can be a problem. However to act like white people have no say in any of this because we were the oppressors is ignorant. First off in Africa for an ungodly number of years Slavery was commonplace. People quoted Nas's song here which makes me laugh. Nas is one of those people who talks about roots and tries to stay close to the culture but ignores the negative things. In the song he talks about Timbuktu(sp?)and how people went there to learn and get books. But ofcourse he like everyone else ignores that slavery was commonplace in Egypt in that time and had been forever. Before you go to preach to some white kid about what HIS ancestors did maybe you should think about what your ancestors did and that maybe it was just karma biting that group in the ass for their evils. So to wrap it up, everyone has an equal say. A white guy who is educated on this stuff will know more then someone who is black and doesnt. Skin color isnt important and the more people freaking hold on to it the longer racism will be a problem. This doesnt mean we should forget the culture nor that we should get rid of AA just yet. It does mean that people should STFU about being oppressed all the damn time and not be like Nas who only pays attention to the parts of his culture he wants. And so should alot of the ignorant crap coming out of some of the white posters mouths here.....id give some examples but I ignore these guys because their beyond ignorance.

Damn people, I'm from halfway around the world (Europe - Slovenia), but it still seems to me that this democracy thing isn't working for you. Everyone of you has made his own little private democracy, based on his culture, beliefs and music style he prefers. And still it seems that the whole black-white-...insert your own nationality/colour of skin... thing isn't over by far. Yeah, yeah rap is great and Alien Ant Farm (that IS the topic, remember) are too...and there are still special awards for black artists? And then everybody (black) is upset because some white rock group plays a song and bothers their musical majesties and then everyone that is white starts accusing them of racism. And the circle is closed.And everybody is OK with that? Can I expect to be called a stupid Slav and an ignorant ass because I don't see things as any of you does?

Wow! This topic lasted THIS long?! LMAO! :-) I wonder if this sets a record. . .Hmmmm

MSI Magus I agree with most of what you said. I feel that Nas wasn't neglecting the negative side of our history but bringing a side of history that was unheard of. For man years we weren't allowed to have pride, to have rights, to have a voice. We were always thought of as poor, ignorant dumb "niggers". I know that there was slavery way before the "Europeans" brought us to "America". However, it was not as popular as it grow to be. The slaves in those times where usually people who had dishonored that family, country or commit crimes. That was their jail. As far as Afirmative Action goes. It is needed, and in some cases may not be fair. But ask yourself this, if you were a balck female or black male would you really want to get a job just because of the color of your skin? Like your not worth a damn, your just a legal clause. I am bi-racial. I am white, black, and indian. I know of all three struggles. I think that the "white man" should have a say in history and have an opinin, but they will never have the same out look on life. They have never endured what we have and that is always going to be a fact. We were not allowed to to eat where we wanted, drink where we wanted, sit where we wanted and for a long period of time vote. Our churches were burned down to crush our spirits. Where do you think that Gospel music originated? From slaves. I do share many points wit you but we are treated unjust. Would you want a girl to be with you just because your rich? No, just like I wouldn't want a job just becasue I appear to be black. I wasn't personally affected by aaf being there I actually thought it was cute. But do you think that if Snoop showed up at the country awards that they would feel some type of way? You say that black people would feel some type of way if there was a WET network? So what do you call VH1 and MTV. Although now they play rap and r&b, they originated as an all white station, therefore BET was created. MTV was created in like 1981 or 82. They played rock, soft rock, alternative, and pop. They didn't start playing rap and r&b until BET was created. So there was a WET whether you want to admit it or not. I think that cracker, white bread, off white, etc are offensive words, however the meaning is not as strong. Nigger, porch money, and jiggaboo are what we were called and still are. Neither of tese words should be said but there were far more people calling us niggers than there are or was calling ya'll crackers. The word has a more power meaning yuo have to admit that yourself. The next thing that you will bring up is that we as balck people call our selves Niggas. That word originated from the word nigger, but we took a negative and made it into a positive. And people from all ove the world did come to Africa to learn many skills and trades. Last but not least, for 400 years "White Americans" laughed at "niggers". So why is it so offensive when we laugh at ya'll. And I have heard white comedians joke about white people. Watch Comic View on BET @10:00 pm eastern time, and see white comedians make jokes. Here's something that will shut ya'll up about BET and WET did you know that BET is owned by a White man?

Your all black

How can you say he was bringing up a side of history thats unheard of? We hear all the time the positive side of African roots.....people talk like everyone is a king and queen and over do that positive side. We NEVER hear the negative side. Yes its a positive song so he didnt need to bring it up in the song but much of what was in the song also didnt need to be brought up and he and many others strike me as overally proud of their roots. They focus on the positive and ignore the negative. Its like being German and trying to pretend there was never Nazi's. I disagree with the rest of what your saying to, just because your black it doesnt mean you know more. Not every Black person is going to have a horrible struggle id guess now most wouldnt. Hell were I grew up the black kids were by far the most popular and it has carried over into our adult hood. Not once did I EVER hear any of them called Nigger or any racist remarks not once. Yet iv been called white bread, honkey, freak etc etc more times then I could count. I think in some places blacks still have a struggle but its not as bad as you or many others want to make it out to be. You make it sound like its still the 50's and your struggling with day to day life. Sooooo many people take this attitude and its so damn far from the truth. See thats the difference between me and you and many others. Im speaking in the present, im seeing things for what they are and trying hard to be fair and move on. Your clinging to the past and CANT move on. You continue to pick at the same scab and refuse to let it heal. What do I call MTV and VHI? VH1 I call old peoples network thats trying to slowly modernize. MTV I call a damn good mix of white and black......and not enough rock! MTV is like 40% pop 40% R&B/Rap now. If you think MTV is for white people only you havnt been watching it obviously. And MTV played Rap long before BET was created I believe and if they didnt it was long before anyone knew what BET was. Back in the days when rap was first taking off MTV played videos from people like the Sugar hill gang and as time went on they played other up and comers like Fresh Prince, LL Cool J and Biz Markie. Im guessing your speaking out of ignorance on this subject and also once again trying to act like the 50s carried on into the 80's and 90s. And yes I know what BET is owned by a white guy and I watch comic view now and then(used to watch it like every day). Im not some ignorant white guy, im just as I said talking in the present not the past so you and many others wont like it. I think its perfectly fine that black people laught at white peole and the things we do. I dont think its fine that white people arnt provided the same option. Sounds like you think that African Americans are entitled to be asses because of their horrible pasts. I wont accept this. People should be treated equally regardless of the past. I suggest you accept the present state of things andleave the past in the past. Things arnt the same and you cant use the past as an excuse for poor behavior or false injustices anymore. It just sounds like a joke.

Some of you people need to get in touch with reality.. the reality is there is no such thing as equality in this world.. its easy for white people to sit there and not see what all the fuss is about when the majority of people in power are white.. its easy for them to moan about leaving the past in the past.. when they don't have to still deal with the same racism their ancestors had to go through the reason why black people keep bringing up the past is because ignorant fools like you want to forget it.. and ignore the fact that there is a problem today.. when the world changes and we no longer have to worry about racial slurs and hate crimes against our people.. our past will remain in the past.. until then it should keep being brought up in order to educate young people about the injustice of racism as for the topic at hand.. snoop and nas are not racists.. they only encourage pride in our race.. they do not and have never incited hatred against white people.. learn the definition of racism before you throw the word around.. also i have seen the video clip of 'these days' and it seems to me that everyone enjoyed seeing aaf performing.. you people are assuming too much from nothing

And ladeda its easier for some blacks to drudge up the past and act like its the present over accepting current facts. Its easier to act like everyone is a biggot or the majority are and are holding you back then accept the truth. Once again you dont have to be black to know about racism or see whats going on with equality in the world. You saying you do and some white people like me just dont get it is like me saying blacks have no say in it because their all going to overeact. Its just stupid. There are white people who will be blind biggots, there will be black people that are blind biggots. And yes the majority is still white and they hold the power but that doesnt mean things are horrible for blacks. Im sorry but your blidinding yoursself and trying to use your race as something its not. As iv pointed out nowdays plenty of white people will have a hard time because their skin color, yes its not in the same numbers as blacks but the scales are starting to tip close to equal when it comes to idiotic thingss done because of race. I think maybe you need to accept that your skin color isnt what you want to think it is. I doubt you will though since your attitude is a white boy like me cant know what he is talking about. The fact that you say ignorant fools like you want to ignore problems today shows your wrong and biased. I have admitted over and over to problems. Iv went so far as to say we still need AA. Thats hardly what some ignorant white boy blind to todays problems would say. That you say it though shows your just an ignorant human(*gasp* I called you human instead of by the color of your skin like you did me)who cant get past race. People like you are the reason there are problems with race still almost as much or as much as the idiotic racist whites. You both refuse to see things for what they are and work for a better future. You both cling to the color of your skin and treat others with a different color as ignorant. You both show ignorance isnt race exclusive.

HELLO i think you are all missing the point of it i see it as they were sending a messege to people who are different for whatever reason being skin color or just a different taste in music and life, saying hey these times are screwed up we should work together to make it better. am i wrong ? so shut up about all this crap u r talking about and see the good in it i think it was one of the greatest videos i have seen. Thank you Alien ant farm. R.I.A.A sucks they want money they dont care about the artist. stress80@juno.com

Cory S I totally agree and wouldnt have said anything I said if it hadnt been brought up already. If you look through my posts iv been one of the few thats said over and over skin color isnt important and untill everyone acts like that people wont be able to succesfully work toghter to make things better.

Can't we all just get along? Damn!

I think it is about time that some white dude did something about BET do you think their could ever be a TV station called WET.... bull it would be "racist". Black people got to stop pretending that white people are out to get them and relax. Enjoy your freedom and stop being so uptight PS I date a black chick so don't give me your "Your a racist crap"

Everybody keeps bringing up the WET thing. Ask yourself this, befire there was Michael Jackson MTV was WET. He was the first African-American to EVER be on MTV or VH1. In this was in 1985. Four years after MTV or WET was created. Then came company name BET then owned by a black man, who felt like we deserved thae same rights. Is that wrong? White people seem to think that black people want to be them and would have a problem with them having a network call WET. Sorry, but those days are over with. BET is owned by a white man, did you hear that "black people" were outraged? NO! Why did it take Michael Jackson and BET to make MTV play African American music? I understand that now they do play "our" music. But that doesn't change the past. Just because I'm Black and your White soesn't mean I know more about struggling than you do, but it means that I do relate to the kinds of struggles that African-Americans go through. That is something that you will never know. Our struggle is different from yours. That is a fact that will always remain. That is not a reason to dwell on the past either. But what you must realize is that the future is nothing is you forget about the past. How do you know where your going, if you don't know where you come from?

Well saying that there couldnt be a WET without blacks complaining is true and people just use it to make a point. But saying there should be a WET is just dumb. Go Greenly as I already said before BET was around African Americans got time on music stations if I recall correctly. Even if they didnt id say it has a hell of alot more to do with how big rock and especially hairbands and metal were in that period of time. There wernt many African American rockers in the mainstream. And in pop music the hip trendy types that MTV played I cant think of many either. Also not many people got MTV back then so how many do you think got BET? Saying that BET pressured MTV into putting more black artists on is a joke its like saying MTV better put on local bands to compete with public accesse stations. BET wasnt any influence on MTV probally till YEARS after when they had black artists on for years. And yes your AA so you will relate to "the struggle" better and I will never no how much. But just like being AA is a positive in these converations its a negative. Some people are BLIND because of their race and make things out to be much worse then what they are(like id say your trying to do with MTV and BET). And I dont think we should forget the past I think it should never be forgotten. But I dont think it needs to be a constant. I dont think you need to scribble on a headband my people were opprssed and walk around with it on all the damn time. I think the past should deffintly be rembered least we repeat it......but dont freaking cling to it.

a quick fact about this song: there are two versions of it. the one on madden 2004 and another 1.

Why doesn't everyone just stop for a moment??!! Did anyone know that AAF did this at a Justin Timberlake/Christina Aguilera concert in the parking lot of Staples Center, confusing the shit out of 12 year old girls and their soccer moms . Also @ a Gay parade by entering a giant ant float in the parade and taunting anti-gay protesters in the process. The BET awards crash is the just the one that made it into the video. They are all into diversity. Didn't they do a cover of Michael Jackson's Smooth Criminal?! They were just promoting the new single!!

The lyrics for this song are: "Would you like to work with me I'd love to work you These days are great And so are you" Whats so racist about that? Most of you people seemed to miss the whole point of the video. Theres nothing racist about this and in my opinion..it was a brilliant idea.Re- read the lyrics and think about it..hopefully youll see that it was meant to be humorous, not offensive.

The whole point of the video was bring up controversy..you guys can say its racist or whatever. But the truth is..your reading WAY too m uch intoit . WHAT I DONT UNDERSTAND IS: why cant you guys learn to have fun with it..everybody else is =)

Quick Fact: After the video was shot, the band received clearance from each of the stars to use them in the video. No one declined the honor. Obviously, every single person who was in that video was amused..not offended. If they were offended..they wouldnt have let AAF put them in the video

No messages since the 13th is this finally the end. All this has done truly is make people mad and no matter what we all have our own opinions on things and alot of people will never agree on anything. I guess thats why they call it LIFE!!!

how the hell was anyone ever racist, it wont about messing with BET it was about messin with just something that is supposed to be orderly and stuff, it was a gorrilla concert, that just surprises people what a better place the then BET awards, and im pretty damn sure lil' kim was rockin' in the video. i listen to all music i mean damn im from VA if u dont like everything here something is wrong, i think it was cool of them to do it cuz everyone but the cops was likin' it.

the music from snoop and nas and stuff has some racial related things but its just for the music,these people arent truely racist. its just for the comedy... in comedy SLIGHT racial jokes i think are ok as long as not taken too seriously and dont insult people of the other race(s) too badly. Email:Sephiroph88@hotmail.com

its 200 years later and we're all here still argueing about the same shit... shit that isn't even relevant to us because its what our ancestors did... everybody just shut the hell up! What is important is what an individual does to you... Snoop says something... so what? Nas says something... so what? Kid Rock says something... so the *%$^ what? Their all making the green and we're all just sitting here in our middle and lower class mediocrity argueing about the same shit. What is important is the individual not the race.

Nas's song is full of inaccuracies.

I thought what AAF did was funny ass hell. I dont see what the big deal is . Iam sure if Lajon Witherspoon of (sevendust) would have been prforming i would have not been a big deal ......Ps Iam black

What is so strange with this thing is... who cares about which event it was...? Music is not a question of color, it is a question of heart and hear. If some artists did not like that at all because they thought it was an offense toward their culture, is it the opinion of all the black people living in the U.S.A.? Some teenagers might think it is... I believe it is an isolated case of jealousy...

oh and by the wya just a lil fact.....BET is owned by MTV...so whoever argued about that before saying its BET not WET...needs to do som research

I think you are all a bunch of dumb Americans, say too much and think too little.

I think the problem is that Americans have a problem with Political Correctness, which is why they argue about racism/not-racism, offensive/not-offensive all the time. Stop being so scared of each other.

Uhhhhh AAF is not racist, seriously think about it, what if there was WET... White Entertainment Television. If there was such a thing then that would be considdered racist yet BET is not racist or prejudice?!? Hereis a joke I heard over the radio in Seattle. Radio Host: I just got this e-mail from a listener with some breaking news. Producer Spike Lee is going to sue BET for copyright infringemnts on the name Black Entertainment Television. Spike Lee has brought up alledged arguments that he is Black Entertainment Television for his movies and that BET has no right to use that name. BET producers met early this morning in a scurry to come up with a new name so they wouldn't have to go to court. Some of the potential names they came up with for the television program were Non White Entertainment, Blacks Only Television. By the way... THE ONE - September 05, 2003 5:26:53 PM - Report Inappropriate Comment -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ALIEN ANT FARM ARE RACIST AND THEY SHOULD DIE FOR WHAT THAY DID THE BEST - September 05, 2003 5:34:26 PM - Report Inappropriate Comment -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ALL MEMBERS OF ALIEN ANT FARM ARE RACIST AND I AGREE WITH YOU THE ONE THEY SHOULD DIE I think that you should die yourself you bastard!!!! g0g0g0 AAF!!!

dude it was funny they werent trying to be dick heads they were just messing around people are way to up any way..that was prolly just the 1st award show that came around if it had been some other show maybe they would have done the same thing

you guys must have no life to be writing about this since july...I definatly think someone should rise up and start a w.e.t. for rock country and some other kinds of music...and if african american people want to sing country let them put their video on air. I would just like to see how people handle this. Otherwise B.E.T. should change their name to HipHopEntertainment or soemthing! No racism intended

If you read the full story you would read that AAF had a limited time frame to shoot the video - they scouted events in the area and had to take what they could get. That happened to be the BET awards. If it had been the Oscars that day - then none of you half wits would have anything to fight over. People are too quick to blame anything a white does to a black, or a black does to a white on the colour of the skin. Grow up.

Can't we all just get along?

Here's the facts! Racism exist because we allow it to! It's not a disease, a handicapp, or a must. We also have to realze that not all of us agree with each other. I don't think AA is a good thing. MTV does not own BET. MTV iwas WET in the 80's. And that you have to admit. BET has helped WET in some ways. BET made them play urban music..not black music or spanish music. MTV realize it had to grow with the times as did BET. MTV played Jay-Z and the BET played N'SYNC. When you realy think about to say BET is a racist station would be calling MTV a racist station too. For 2 years TRL didnt play one rap song on rotation. And neither did 106 and Park. The point is that they've grown as companies. And as far as AAF, I thought it was funny as a person, black or white. But you have to respect the fact that other peole saw it as being disrespectful.

Without a doubt AAF was disrepsecful to the BET awards. The awards took place to honor people's work, and in no means did AAF have the right to disrupt it. However, people who do not feel this way are not racist but thought either the incident was funny, which was what AAF wished, or they posses slight jelousy that there is a BET where white people almost are restricted (which would include me). I find AAF to be respectable artists, much more than many rappers who speak of anger, money, and zealous sex, however, if anyone says AAF did not make a misjudgment in morality i would know that other factors are involved with there opinion (which might not be rasict)

Where's the proof that AAF intentionally set out to crash the awrds. The article states they played their song on a rooftop outside of the auditorium...they didn't enter the room, they didn't even walk to the front door. For all we know, they could have sincerely planned the entire thing weeks or months prior to the BET Show and not even known about the event. Funny how we can still bitch about this story more than 6 months after the fact. Big f-in' deal.

why did they have to take it there? i am black, and an AAF fan. i never have thought of their music as being black vs. white, or even in terms of color. and then all of a sudden, it was the main issue above everything else. do they not think that they have any black fans out there who love their music as much as the next white person?

What was the point of AAF doing that? When you think of the motive. It was wrong. I saw the video just now and they looked like they were trying to get on the BET attendee's nerves. That's shady.

Yep, I ahave returned after along time. I didn't hink people were still even on this. What has it been 6 months since the aaf thing happened. Y'all just need to cut the racism bull crap out because it is ridiculous and immature, like greenley said, it exists because we allow it to. If people would stop and think about it, and hopefully hard headed people will realize that this is stupid and cut it out so this world would be a better place for all of us. DAMN!

WOW- EVERYONE - GET A FREAKING GRIP!!! I read some of the comments until I realized they went on for-freaking-ever. I didn't finish reading everyone's comments but I read quite enough. You, know, almost every "Group", racial or ethnic has spent it's share of time in the barrel and it's no fun. My group? Well, over in Europe when they ran out of stuff to do they just checked the "Heeb-ee Guide" to see what Pogrom was on that night and went out and found some Jews to beat the crap out of or kill. But that wouldn't justify me oppressing anyone else today. What amazes me is when folks are able to break free of it and then try to do the same thing to other people. OK, you've got a group you don't like; you spend all your time sittting on top of the barrel they're stuck in. Great. Just realize that NEITHER of you are going anywhere until that changes. Think about it. That's all I have to say here. No further comments from this corner here. Peace, if that is at all possible.

So rap's not racist? Look up a rap group called Apache Chief. Nuff Said

waow! aight, I am too a hip hop fan and freestyle friday planner, i don't gatta be black right, you know hip hop and rap is all around the world today. Chuck D said “hip-hop is not a culture but a sub-culture of people with a culture." we all like it, we all love it, be down to earth. BET is a tribute to all blacks but that don't mean, no other cultures can get involve because its a tribute right. Later on in thaosands of years people are going to be just one race, Thanx! and Peace out!

i come from a far off land, and i think all u god damn americans have racial issues and should shut the hell up. AAF did it for the money and exposior thats all

demi ur completely wrong and im guessing you know absolutely nothing about alien ant farm. they dont do stupid things for money. they do stupid things because they know they can get away with it. it was a hilarious stunt and tey had all the rappers laughing. but personally i think BET is racist. separarating people by the colour of their skin is definate racism. if you were told you cant go in a club because ur white would u be offended? now switch places? why is one worse then the other? thats racism.

This video was right on the money. Lets face it, we all hate each other. Blacks, whites, asians, latins, etc. etc. etc. This video dives straight into the race issue and comes out on top. It shows maybe we all can get along. It is enlightening and a lot of fun to watch. Great job.

I just happened to come across this message board and I am quite apalled. Everyone is making such a big racial issue about something that was not meant to be racially offensive but a humorous video. I actually think that it is quite cool that they crashed the BET awards, its a start for racial cohesion. As for the big race issue, I believe that the problem everyone has is primarily STEREOTYPES. Once again STEREOTYPES. Even people that claim to not be racist, they still harbor certain stereotypes. The first step towards erasing the race lines is realizing that stereotypes are not truth. People have a tendency to believe that black people wear baggy clothes, listen to rap/r&b, and are subpar in many areas to other cultures. Also people tend to think that white people are rockheads who like to do crazy things like jackass stunts/ bungie jumping, the list goes on... My point is that we all need to dissolve these ideas gradually and come to terms that homo sapiens are not beings that can be categorized into certain racial groups. We are a very complex species and cannot be categorized by melanin amounts. Nor can we be categorized by where we grew up. Money or lack of it (whether black or white or green) is not an indicator of behavior, preferences, or attitudes about people. When eveyone is born, they are blank, they grow and shape their individual pesonalities from personal insight. In other words, the point that I want to get across to you all is that people should stop distinguishing people by race but by the person. Also theres no such thing as black or white music, black culture or white culture. Were all the same species but we have varying melanin levels. Every species has some type of variability, if we didnt then we would all be very boring. I hope that this message is listened to. It probably will not make any kind of difference. As for my race, its not important, im homo sapien, a primate, a mammal just like everyone else on this site. Ciao

i would have kick those whiteboys butts i am a bigot and proud of it and i don't use the excuse of AA or the whiteman discrimnates against me i hate because you are white and inferior enough said hate is good if aaf went to the soul train awards i would have shot them

B E T is racist!!!!! guess its time that white ppl start standing up to these double standards. I mean its B E T, Black history month, blah blah blah. There's no W E T, or no white hostory month. So yeah im pissed

snoop is racist i mean watch his stupid show, and nas's song is also racist and its not even accurate.. B E T might as well be called KKK TV FOR black people cuz thats really what it is.... havent u ever seen that big black star on your screen where it says black star power???? now imagine IF there was a w e t and it had a white star with the words WHITE STAR POWER....On top of all this BET plays trash, rappers calling each other nigger, or nigga whatever the difference is i believe its the same. People is gonna get tired of this crap beacause if your black you can parade around being proud that your black, but if your white and say your proud to be white your considered to be the head leader of the KKK...its just bull....then comes the job/employment crap omg i dont even wanna get started on this cuz so many blacks try to get the easy way out or try to sue over racsim even when its not there....ITS time to wake up and quit letting this crap happen cuz it only leads to more racism....Martin luther King would be ashamed of what this country has come to i mean even with the name bet its going against what he fought so hard for, he wanted to end segregation and this BET is just bitch slapping him in the face.

I think racism won't ever be gone, won't ever be done, won't ever be through. You can't really help that teeny weeny small part of you that thinks you're better than someone else. Whether you're from: Europe, Asia, Austraila, North America, etc. It's what you were born to, so wouldn't you automatically think that your color is the best. It is very different being born white, black, brown, etc. You only care about what color you are and to you, you are the best.

i definetley think that all black people are racist because every day at school i constantly hear "cracka" or "white boy" and it pisses me off because white people dont call blacks nigga or nigger or anything like that. i am just so sick of all the freakin black history month crap on mtv or any channel for that matter. i mean the dave chappel show and that retarded snoop dogg thing are clearly racists towards white people if a white guy had a show like that he would prolly be killed or jumped.

AAF did preformed at the BET awards because they knew it would be hilarious for some white guy to be crashin the show and probably figured you guys would get it too. I think it's hilarious. When ODB crashed the grammy's it was hilarious. You guys need to lighten up. I mean it's humor. You gotta take things like that lightly or you're gonna wake up one day an old person who hates everyone and everything including themselves. It was a joke. Black people make fun of white people and i find it hilarious. Dave Chappelle, Martin Lawrence and Eddie Murphey have been doing it for years and i can't get enough of it. It's the same with this concert. It's just a jab that you people need to laugh at instead of seriously discuss

This is one of the longest topic post I have ever seen so l guess there's no harm in throwing in my two cents. Just a few points first I don't believe AAF is racist for what they did, it was a publicity stunt and it worked very well if people are still talking about it even now. Having said that I think if G-Unit or the Cash Money Crew had did that to the Country Music Awards a lot of people would have a different opinion. And my second point is on the posting there where comments made about "Egyptians" and "Blacks". Please review your history and Nas's lyrics carefully. When NAS refers to "Kush Timbuktu" he's refering to much of what is now Sudan, which was known as Nubia, or the Kingdom of Kush. The Nubians ruled Egypt for a period as well as the Egypt ruling over Nubia for time. For instance the 25th dynasty of Egypt was ruled by native nubian King Taharqa as Pharaoh. Even when Ancient Egypt was controlled by outsiders, men and women of nubian decent continued to hold high positions within the Egyptian empire. So yes there where "Black" Egyptians. But as Nas' was refering to Kush here are some facts abut that Kindom. Archeological findings have shown that the founding of Kerma (first capital of Nubia) dates back to 5,000 B.C.. The Nubian Empire pre-dates Egyptian civilization and its lifespan outlasted Egypt, Greece and Rome combined. The Kingdom of Kush, with its alphabet, commerce and architectural triumphs was the equal of its ancient world counterparts. As royal tombs for their rulers they built pyramids which numbered more than all those of Egypt.

ok im black. and wat i see is a band(i listen to rock) that no doubt interupted a Formal event. It was the participant of said event that chose to welcome the chaos. That said black people have always welcomed the abuse of the whites.For hundreds of years the world has tried to just get by while european and white americans amass weapons that they condemn others to have. whites have bombed japan 3 times fire bombed germany enslaved africans pillages native. so when will we forget never when will we get over it never. there are still african slaves today in sudan the same region that nas says we shared all or knowledge with the world. in sudan today in 2004 africans are enslaved for 50 dollars american. african american will never forget because even until the 1970s black where portrayed as dumb slow lazy thugs and happy go lucky. today white4 americans are trying to destoy wat remains of demoralizing products released from 1870-1960 caricatures of buck eye big red lipped blacks and products like nigger head tobacco that was sold till 1912 and thay change the name to bigger head that is the reason we can forget man. we cant forget because generations as close as my grandfather hung from trees by the hundreds. i bet many of ur parent are over 40. 40 years ago my people where still dangling from trees. so if ur asking us to get over it ur asking us to shame ourselves. ur telling us to just accept the past and still exist under whites. because thers no doubt where still under them. if u every reallly want to know hy racism still exist stay in Los Angeles county jail. 60 man cell. africans mexicans and whites all separated because they choose to be. the hatred resides within us and it all ways will just cause ur not over 40 dont try to downplay the real with u tommy hilfiger every1s happy idiograms. the fact of racism in america is most blacks over forty had to deal with real hard core nigger eat outside nigger nigger shit somewhere else racism.that y we dont forget yet because or father had to walk in the gutter when they saw a white woman appoachin. hey dont take my word for it regan was president in the 80s when i was born. but during my father youth reagan was in a group that didnt want blacks to vote. reagan died a few days ago how can i forget?

why does it matter?did you guys see ludacris and lil john?everyone even the fans were havin a awsome time.im black.but really if they crashed it eveyone wouldve had a bad time.aaf kicks a**!!!!!!!!!!

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why is every one still tallking about this

why is every one still tallking about this thing its been over a year now

yea realy why are yall

damn b, u started some crazy shit. i'm neither black or white. i'm Trinidadian and Indian. (nva call a Trini black, cuz we not African. most of us(including me) r of Indian decent) well, i didn't see it so can someone clarify wat happened?? (oh yea, when i sayd "damn b" i was relation that 2 Ghetto John)

ok, i read the article. but i gotta say racism is a bunch of nonsense n ppl shouldn't hate others. i'm not racist,but on the serious note, i'm glad i'm not blk also.

it was tight! Alien Ant Farm was good to put some rock n roll in the black community. ROCK ON Yall!

U know what...i think ppl should be able to be proud of who they are...skin dun matter this aint even no issue...the only racism that exists now a days is against those asian bitches!!!! i'm rasist against em...so wut?!?

I don't believe in racism. I don't believ in royal people either because were all born,we all die, we all cry. nobodys perfect, and it makes you even more imperfect to think your better than someone else. your gonna die and no ones gonna miss you cuz you were a ass hole, not you whose reading this but just in general. Are you an ass hole? do you treat people differently cuz they go to Payless instead of the mall? cuz they don't wear their hair like yours? even if they are your race, its basically the same. you don't like them becuz their different. if your a racist ans you see a black person walking down the street, do you think about what a nice person they are? or do you think that their stupid? wouldn't it be the same if you saw a ugly person? how bout a fat one? people that are mean to other people because of how they look are not racist but sub conciously regarding fat ugly people as a different breed. thats all. weewee

I dont know i found it funny and im black, but still it was a little disrespectful. thats like having someone crash your wedding. Just depends on your moral standards

everyone on this site tring to talk about racism needs to stop. it is impossable for a white person to talk about racism becuz they never went threw it so they do not know what it is. i go threw it everyday and it aint over. your ancestors were not the only ones who did it. it still thrives in american society today. whem you guys say i got black friends thats it, when i get pulled over for being black thats it, when i go in a department store and everyone ask me do i need some help thats it. when a white band goes to an award show not invited thats it. why not crash the grammys oscars country music awards no just B.E.T, thats it, no justification just b cuz its B.E.T thats racism.

I'am a black teenager who belives that BET is racist to prove my point, there is N O such thing as black music racism is racism not all pepole that are racist. third there is no black america fourth all BET is doing is proving the old sterotype of black IGNORANCE. i woculd like to ask the pepole at BET how they woculd react to bomeone making an WET (white entertanment television) I hope that someday pepole will be looked at as pepole. Some day i hope to be an actress and i woculd not be a quest on BET, i don't want to be on something just because i'm black. i want to be respected because i'm a person and for the work that i do. BET and it's supportes are ignorant racist sterotypical manpulative bigots.

first off bet and mtv are not owned by the same pepole and RACISM IS RACISM NO MATTER WHO IT'S COMING FROM.

Stop crying about what Alien Ant Farm did. Everyone on the red carpet got a free show from a famous rock band. Most seemed to enjoy it even though they most likely would've never even gave the song the time of day anywhere else. Other people have to pay to see Alien Ant Farm. So, stop your crying.

Can someone explain to me what happened @ the awards?!?!?

First off I don't care what any1 says Nas isn't racist he's pro-african he believes in bettering his race. And whites ned to stop complaining because you still rule the world and own all the banks,we blacks still live in poverty. And you look down on us like its our fault YOUR RACE HAD A 400 YEAR HEAD START. so get your facts right. back on the nas thing. Did every1 forget that Nas was rhyming he put those together to rhyme! its a song! I can't just get on whites because if we as a people can stop blaming whites for our problems we could do something with our lives. but whites try to suck the truth & power out of us all Nas said was the freakin truth!!!!!! the egyptains were both black & white most were black. the whites migrated or moved there.

i like it and why is it when white people are proud to be white theyre racist but black folks are just proud black people. and theyre own people sold them as slaves in africa so be mad at them

what happened to the thread...it stopped...im the first to post for months...it has ended...it has ceased...rest in peace

This may be of the current path but I would like to respond to the comment that the term white boy is not as offensive as the word nigger. I'll give you a little example. I play basketball sometimes on a court where there are usually about 40 guys and at least 37 are black. Well, I'm pretty good and in a particular game I blocked this guy's shot 3 times and stole the ball from him and dunked at the other end. The next time I drove the lane he fouled me hard and when I called it he called me a "pussy white boy." We got into an argument and he and his boys kept calling me "white boy" telling me it's on nowand that they were going to show me that white boys can't play with black men. It was a gang mentality. I found his comments incredibly offensive. Had I not feared getting ganged on by 5 guys I would have thrown a right cross in his face. It was all I could do not to. Don't tell me it's not as offensive. I'm sick of every other race claiming white people are racist. Yes, there are racist white people and yeah, some of their comments can be viewed as racially offensive. But it's not like it doesn't work both ways. For example, P. Diddy on Conan O'brien said "I'm going to get me a white butler." He later followed that up with "This America baby, it's our turn", meaning black people's and implying not white people's. Did anybody bring that up in the media? Is there a W.E.T.? Chris Rock had a whole HBO special where he blames the government and rich white people for black peoples problems. I'm not rich, can I blame the government too? Why can't there be? If you're white it's like stepping on eggshells. Some people from other races and the media are just dying to pounce on you for anything you do while some of them take all of the liberties they want with their comments and actions. I'm white, I'm proud, I'm not racist, and I will not let the media create some mass mind that we should have some kind of guilt. I'm just trying to do the best I can for myself and the ones I love. I suggest everybody else do the same.

i personally this conversation is immature... it took me forever to read this and i laughed my ass off... i am mexican and i get the same amount of discrimination as blk ppl do but i do think yuo all should get over all of this... i mean... coming from a kid who just turned 17that prity pathetic ppl!!!!! but yeah, about that comment that white boy is jst as racist as nigger.... HELL NO!!!! sry your wron about that. If your white and ur chillin with ur mexican buddy, you cant just call him a beaner can you? same thing applyes if ur with ur black friend... iff u call him a nigger theres gonna b sum consequensces and repricutions!!! hes/shes gonna kick ur ass, ya kno? BUT, if ur with yur white buddy and ur mexican, blk, chinese, japanese or whatever the hell you are, and you call your friend a white boy.......whoal different story...if usay, damn dude ur such a white boy... its not the same thing as him telling you damn dude ur such a nigger.. you understand?

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this comment is for Kikndhead....what vhe hell do you mean the basketball players had a gang mentality..this is the whole point that were trying 2 make. you automatically assume that becuase these black guys fouled u, theyre automatically labelled as having a gang mentality. My take is that u may not be a racist but you definitely harbor stereotypes that you need 2 let drain out of your head. Are u trying 2 tell me that if a white guy fouled you and called you a name u would label him as being a gang banger...no u wouldnt. Also, there was a need for BEt...im not sure if you know this...but once upon a time ago, MtV did not alow for balck artists 2 be on their channel...hmmm didnt know that little fact eh? also, even though blacks are featured on MtV nowadyas, they are still underrepresented in the running of the MtV station, and are underrepresented in the reality shows and shows featured on ur MtV channel. that was just a stupid comment about whether there is a WEt channel...there's no need 4 it...whites are featured everywhere...they are the majority...plus you all put down other groups of people for years...oppressing them and keeping them down, so now u have the audacity 2 complain about one channel that celebrates african americans and their frredom 2 have a station that features their talents and opinions? dont u think vhey deserve it? especially after recieving the shortest month of the year to celebrate their history thav is often left out of mainstream textbooks? u'll prob say well there isnt a month for white history...after this comment u should be able to guess my response ;)

when did AAF perform at the BET awards and ytf is it such a big deal and ytf isnt there a WET awards

If anyone actually watches the video they made of this, there's numerous shots of both entertainers and crowds in the area givin' it up for the band for playing. Just because they're there for a different kind of music doesn't mean they can't appreciate a band rockin' out... not to mention sticking it to the pigs.

i thought the video was really cool and most people at the awards seemed to be enjoying the music. I dont think the band were trying to ruin the awards or be racist

you know... if there WAS a W.E.T(white entertainment television) not only would it be horribly bad, but you wouldn't hear the end of whiny ass niggers saying it was racist

7 years later and people are still arguing about this video. What has this world come to?

Hehehe...b****

blah yall ar just abunch af rascists go home

That sheit was awesome.

OK...after reading all these comments i can honestly say not one damn person can get the point across..rasism still exist everywhere...to people that think african americans be be offended when caucasians do something your all idiots. WE were also forced over here on boats to a country no one knew anything about we fought starvation, cold winters, little food, indians and every other f***ing thing in the world. ALONG with the british for america's independance. so if you think that african americans had it bad go read a f***ing history book!. also. anyone that says the N word is as bad a whitey or white boy. your a complete idiot. that word is too offensive. I am white, im also irish and native american. i can tell you this now. WERE ALL f***ING EQUAL! grow the f*** up and learn to let go of s*** that has happend so far in the past that only history books remember them. get a f***ing life. AAF is awsome. so are alot of rappers and R&B singers. yes some are rasist and thats there own personal prefrence. grow the hell up and get a life.

the only worth while comment to read here is from b**** lol

racism does not exist what are you all talking about

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This is one of my favorite all time videos. I love the way they took advantage of the shock value. This is the sort of thing I would have done if I'd had the chance. As far as the other topic goes. Some of you guys really need to learn your history. I think the time of BET being an asset to the awareness of black culture has passed. To me it is UNNECESSARY segregation at this point. What black artists can't compete against other artists? Are we somehow inferior and need to be separated or we don't get recognized for our achievements? It's funny but you dont see that in sports. I'd guess that the NBA and the NFL are predominantly black but there's no white mvp/black mvp. And what on BET is a 'celebration' of our unique 'culture' these days? Hating cops? thinking everyone else is racist? Being from the hood and having a chip on your shoulder? Acting like a gangsta or talking like an illiterate? Too many people want what they didn't bother to earn. Rich kids who think their parents money makes them somebody, minorities who are all too eager to claim prejudice and oppression, almost everyone.

Get over yourselves your all faggots

First of all, I saw completely how bunch the black people in the crowd were chanting back into it. Come on, music is music. I listen to everything, as long as its catchy. In no way how did AAF do anything wrong. I thought was pretty bad ass and wish I could pull something off like that.

Get over your-selves .... races are races ... music is music, there is no divid unless you as an ignorant person makes one ... AAF done it for controversy and fun ... look now years on and you's are all still arguing .. they are one smart band wouldn't you agree??

SHAZZAMM!!!!

Is this really happening

Race is always going to be there much like one's family. sometimes one hates it others they love it and some are fairly neutral. in reality they are all related, but different you just learn to deal with it.

So what?! Kanye totally dissed Taylor Swift oohh

The number one sign of a racist is someone who say "Im not racist, I have black friends!"

Black people these days are more racist than white people. I'm sick of hearing about how your ancestors were oppressed, oh yeah? Well so were mine, the Irish... The Scots... I don't go around hating on British people. I had nothing to do with the slave trade...neither did you, shut up. We're all equal now. I shouldn't have to give you any special treatment because some white people not even related to me oppressed some black people not related to you. Why should we have to walk on egg shells and prance around certain words in fear of offending? But cracker is an acceptable term to refer to white people as? Get rid of the double standards. AAF had just as much right to be there as anyone else. If you think differently, you're a racist. Simple as that...you are bringing something back into play called segregation... But the rules are reversed. Why shouldn't these guys being whit e be able to be at BET? look at you... Your ancestors fought so hard to end segregation...now you are reinstating it...how sad

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